Ban on house coal and wet wood

[cwhaley]

Assuming many have read the news that the government plans to ban the sale of pre-bagged house coal and the burning of wet wood by 2023. Also understand that loose coal (from merchants) will be banned too.

I often get frowns for having a burner and an open fire, but the vast majority of the time I burn the byproduct of local industry which is seasoned beech. Local furniture factory generates lots of off cuts of timber, so I collect for free on my way home (saves them waste removal costs) and burn in the fires often as opposed to having the heating on and burning natural gas. I argue it's better for the environment.

I do burn house coal now and then but only if I want a long-burning fire I don't have to keep attending to.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51581817

 

[Lower]

I'm interested as to how wet wood will be defined.

 

[SFK]

Wet wood might be defined as not being 'Kiln Dried' ?
So make it so that Sheds have to sell 'Kiln Dried' wood with defined %.

 

[cwhaley]

They'll probably agree a percentage moisture content -- gut feeling is anything over 20%. Can already see men in suits with moisture meters at the merchants!

Depends how far they'll go to police it all I suppose. Maybe lots of it will be 'advisory'.

 

[Lower]

I'm interested as to how the local woodsman that delivers my logs will be able to comply.

Kiln dried surely has to be worse for the environment than naturally seasoned.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Good idea, but I do feel a bit sorry for those who live in remote areas and places like barge boats. Coal can be invaluable to them.

 

[cwhaley]

The best way as many of us know is to source it locally, dry it suitably and then burn. I know of lots of people who sell it 'wet' for people to then season at home -- wonder how this will work.

It's not just remote areas either. Lots of places are close to towns but still have no gas supply. With delivered gas at around 45p a litre (last I saw) coal and wood is their best economic choice.

 

[wobs]

Good idea, but I do feel a bit sorry for those who live in remote areas and places like barge boats. Coal can be invaluable to them.

You'll still be able to buy smokeless coal, as long as it is less than 2% sulphur.
https://www.gov.uk/government/consu.../summary-of-responses-and-government-response

Garages/big sheds selling firewood will have to keep it dry, which many currently don't.

 

[IT Minion]

I'm interested as to how the local woodsman that delivers my logs will be able to comply.

Kiln dried surely has to be worse for the environment than naturally seasoned.

According to the article 'dry' wood has either been kiln dried or seasoned. My bet is that your local woodsman will need to season any cuttings before selling them.

 

[transam]

Barbacues and bonfires will. Be next on the agenda

Imo they should ban bonfire night

 

[IT Minion]

Barbacues and bonfires will. Be next on the agenda

Imo they should ban bonfire night

In India they do bonfire night* properly and it's a major health hazard.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/10/28/diwa...orst-ever-air-pollution-areas-delhi-10998822/

*Ok, not to celebrate a failed coup-detat on the UK, they celebrate the festival of lights at the end of diwali, but lots of things that go wiz-bang.

 

[transam]

AFAIK barbecues are banned in the state of Calafonia in the US??

 

[Brigadier]

Barbacues and bonfires will. Be next on the agenda

Imo they should ban bonfire night

I'd better get rid of my old tyres and polystyrene pronto then, before any fire bans come in

 

[JohnD]

Imo they should ban bonfire night

We should celebrate the only man who ever entered Parliament intending to do good for his country.

 

[EddieM]

well... you know the research on how dry your wood should be, it's on here, if you CBA, it's probably not what you suspect..