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[saxondale]

you SHOULD lift the carpet up 2-3 feet at the very most, cut the underlay away from the INSIDE of the carpet gripper (about 1cm wide) fix your cable down, relay carpet, use blunt bolster chiesel to secure carpet (bolster chiesel goes where saxondale said to put cable)
if you are good / quick the carpet will not shrink back

either way is a good valid technique used everyday by the pro`s but for a guy taking his own carpets up............

 

[breezer]

I will let readers of this post make their own mind up who is right

 

[D1nhs]

Thank you all for the replies!! I appreciate all input thanks

This is the alarm ive narrowed it down to..

http://www.alertelectrical.com/Burg...Alarm-Kits/KIT11--Texecom-Excel-Kit-KIT11.asp

Few more questions please:

1- Ive got a concrete floor downstairs and i will fit laminate flooring, i guess the best thing to do is to channel out the concrete floor? Can i run it in a gap around the laminate?

2- Im going to run all the cables and fit the alarm on a later date, 6 core cable with 1 cable per sensor. I will have 1 sensor per room downstairs, therefore i wont need to wire 2 sensors to one cable right?

3- Any recommendations for some tidy clips?

4- 5 pirs: upstairs landing, downstairs landing, living room, dining room and kitchen 3 door sensors, sound good?

Thanks again

 

[D1nhs]

Just had a brain wave, we are also in the market for a small dog (in the next 6 months or so)!

How do dogs and alarms mix?

Do i have to buy pet friendly pirs, if so, are there security disadvantages to using these?

Can i keep him in the kitchen and disable that sensor via the control panel?

Thanks again

 

[breezer]

1) yes, but if you get a cable fault you then have a problem

2) yes, mark the panel end as to which room it is to make life easier

3)

4) not seen your house, the less is more.

cats /dogs etc and alarms dont mix, no matter what anyone tells you this or that detector will or will not do

save the effort and dont put a sensor in the kithcen, thieves dont really want to nick your oven

 

[plugwash]

presumablly it is often a good idea to put in spare cores when doing alarm wiring in case of cable faults or expanding needs.

 

[breezer]

yes, thats why you use a 6 core, 8 core is better, but neither are any defence against a knife

 

[saxondale]

1)

cats /dogs etc and alarms dont mix, no matter what anyone tells you this or that detector will or will not do

save the effort and dont put a sensor in the kithcen, thieves dont really want to nick your oven

kitchen is a primary area - don`t know where you live breezer but I`ve seen more break ins through the kitchen window than any other

have a look at the K985 - so good I got em in my own house

 

[plugwash]

just because you can't use PIRs in a room doesn't mean you can't have any security there. You can put contacts on anything that opens and breakage sensors on any glass.

 

[breezer]

saxondale, as i said no one wants to nick your oven, i also only said dont put a sensor in the kitchen, i never said anything about not putting a door contact.

D1nhs said 3 contacts, front door, back door (kitchen) patio door ?

D1nhs also said about a dog, and can he keep it in the kitchen.

 

[saxondale]

saxondale, as i said no one wants to nick your oven, i also only said dont put a sensor in the kitchen, i never said anything about not putting a door contact.

D1nhs said 3 contacts, front door, back door (kitchen) patio door ?

D1nhs also said about a dog, and can he keep it in the kitchen.

o/p have a look round your kitchen - ours currently has

my wallet
my car keys
my 20" lcd
my other skybox
the wifes hand bag

shall I carry on ? ok

the kids money boxes
the kids PS2
the keys to the shed
the keys to the garage

more ? ok if you insist

the microwave
the george forman grill ( other grills are available)
pictures of the youngests 1st birthday
the travelrs cheques we forget to cash
grannys china tea pot

and thats without going to look - you need to decide if the risk of it getting nicked whilst your out walking the dog is worth putting a sensor in their - kitchens are PRIMARY areas

 

[Coniferman]

Screwfix have a wireless system at less than half price - £65. Key-pad, 2 pirs, 2 door contacts and alarm.

Oh my god I'm dead

Start the stopwatch.

 

[joe-90]

You should never run a cable anywhere near a gripper, that's the way the cowboy does it. Sooner or later the cable will jump on to the gripper and the nails will pierce and short the cable. Under the floorboards is the way to go.

 

[breezer]

ok joe-90 waht if its a concrete floor?

In an ideal world you would are right, but sadly its nt an ideal world, lifting boards takes time, time costs, the other quote will be cheaper becsue they wont lift floor boards.

I also disagree with your point, on the grounds that you secure the cable to the boards so it can not move to the carpet gripper nails.

 

[joe-90]

You are there for a day. Whether you lift the boards is up to you. I've never laid a cable on a concrete floor, there are always ways around things. I used to get my jobs by explaining HOW I was going to run the cables so they wouldn't be seen.