Butt hinges

GlenJ

GlenJ

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The house renovations are ongoing...yesterday I removed a failing sliding door and glass brick combination and replaced with a couple of cheap ebay louvred doors.

I built a frame out of stud work and used 65mm butt hinges. Everything is square and vertical, according to my spirit level, but the doors don't meet at the bottom (see picture).

Any suggestions as to what's wrong/how to correct?

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Looks like either the frame is out of plumb, or (probably more likely) the doors are twisted. If the frame isn't right, then the answer is to put it right. If it's the doors, then you'll be lucky to do anything once they have warped. Sometimes you can pull them out a bit by laying them flat and weighting the opposite corners and leaving them like that for some days, but they tend to spring back. If it's not too bad you may get away with fitting stops top and bottom where the doors meet along with catches that are strong enough to hold the doors to the stops.
 
as above, but you could also try closing the door past the shut line and holding it in place with a block screwed into the floor for a couple of days, judging how far to over close it is never easy, err on the side of caution and do it gradually. and not guaranteed that it won't warp back again over time. Often a problem with cheap louvres
 
Thanks for the suggestions.

I'll try and warp the door into place by screwing a block down.

Really appreciate your time and advice.
 
stand looking at the edge off the door you should be able to hide all the door behind the edge
if you can see any part off the door its twisted
 
You could use strong magnetic catches on them to keep in place while closed
 
To check if the frame is in wind (twist) put panel pins at the bottoms and tops of both the jambs then run a string line bottom left to top right, top right to top left and top left to bottom right (you end up with an X-shape). If the string(s) just kisses in the middle then your jambs are co-planar (straight), if there is a gap or the strings are very taught against each other (or gapped when reversed) then you have a leg (or legs) in wind. This test is best done with the doors off and the architraves off (i.e. before hanging the doors or fitting the architraves).

The real-world solution (for renbated frames) can sometimes be as simple as pulling one leg back a wee bit (the RH one) or the other forward a wee bit (the LH one), or even a bit of both.... For frames with planted stops it's even simpler - just remove the stop on the affected side and move the (in your case) lower RH hinge inwards until the doors align, fix it and refix the stop. Either/both can also be used to sort-out warped louvre doors (TBH the most likely cause of your problems). Not pretty, but it can and does work
 
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