Crimps or alternate way of joining power lead inside appliance

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I am replacing kinked iron cable.
Crimps joining power lead inside iron look like this.

Anyone suggest where to get these or alternative?
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Yeah solder inside something that gets really hot seems like a great idea. I wonder why the manufacturers who know how to design their products didn’t do that.
 
RF Lighting said:
Yeah solder inside something that gets really hot seems like a great idea. I wonder why the manufacturers who know how to design their products didn’t do that.
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Well stop wondering and learn about mass production techniques and cost saving.

Consider that tungsten light bulbs have their connections soldered to the base contacts.

Irons run at a temperature below the melting point of solder.
 
winston1 said:
Irons run at a temperature below the melting point of solder.
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That depends on the solder - but, in terms of the solder most likely to be used for electrical work (snippets from Wikipedia) ...
Ironing is the use of a machine, usually a heated tool (an iron), to remove wrinkles from fabric. The heating is commonly done to a temperature of 180–220 °Celsius, depending on the fabric
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... and ...
Alloys commonly used for electrical soldering are 60/40 Sn-Pb, which melts at 188 °C (370 °F)
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Kind REgards, John
 
DetlefSchmitz said:
I think you'll find they don't use lead any more!
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They don't, but I think you'll find that the common lead-free has about the same melting point as 60/40 Sn/Pb - which was the first quote I came across in haste. However, if we're being fussy, I'll look it up ........
... The most commonly used lead-free alloy, Sn96.5 Ag3.0 Cu0.5, commonly referred to as SAC 305, has a melting point of 422°F (217°C) to 428°F (220°C).
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... so, a bit higher that 60/40 Sn/Pb, but still 'uncomfortable' in the context of an iron!

Kind Regards, John
 
My soldering iron element has soldered connections. Just saying.
 
echoes said:
My soldering iron element has soldered connections. Just saying.
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Indeed, the same as some of mine - I think all the small Antex ones (as with the ancient Henley ones etc.), and probably many others, have soldered connections to the element. However, I do not know (and somewhat doubt) whether it is 'ordinary' (as opposed to high-melting-point) solder.

Those connections to the element obviously should not, in normal service, get to anything like the operating temp of the iron's tip - but I would still have thought that it would be somewhat 'too close for comfort' (temp-wise) with 'ordinary solder'.

Kind Regards, John
 
JohnW2 said:
Indeed, the same as some of mine - I think all the small Antex ones (as with the ancient Henley ones etc.), and probably many others, have soldered connections to the element. However, I do not know (and somewhat doubt) whether it is 'ordinary' (as opposed to high-melting-point) solder.
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Ah yes. I have replaced several such elements, Adcola and Antex, in my working life and ordinary 60/40 solder was used with no problems.
 
winston1 said:
Ah yes. I have replaced several such elements, Adcola and Antex, in my working life and ordinary 60/40 solder was used with no problems.
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So have I, and I too have used 60/40 (since that's all I would have had), again with 'no problems'. However, I do wonder whether that is what will have been used for the original 'factory soldering'.

I clearly must have laid in some very generous stocks of 60/40 solder many years ago, since that's what I am still using for electronics work!

Kind Regards, John
 
JohnW2 said:
However, I do wonder whether that is what will have been used for the original 'factory soldering'.
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I believe it probably was as I never had any problems desoldering the original element with (another) ordinary iron.
 
winston1 said:
I believe it probably was as I never had any problems desoldering the original element with (another) ordinary iron.
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Same here. However, although I've had umpteen soldering irons (and still have many of them), none have been 'fancy' ones. In other words, I've never had a soldering iron with any sort of temperature control - and if one leaves such irons on for a while, the tip often gets far hotter than is needed to melt 60/40 solder.

Kind Regards, John
 
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