Do MACs need security software?

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Monkeh said:
powerfulp said:
The fact that Mac. equipment is superior in every respect to anything PC is confirmed by the record number of switchers who make it known how pleased they are having having done so.
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It's not a fact, it's an opinion.

The FACTS are:

  • Macs are overpriced for the hardware they contain, which is for the most part identical to that of a normal PC
  • OS X is technically based upon a superior OS which Apple had no part in developing
  • OS X has limited software availability and a severely crippled UI
  • OS X does have malware, no matter how much you deny it
  • At the end of the day, users can make their own choice without having to read biased untruths
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That's just childish opinion. Fools nobody.
 
powerfulp said:
That's just childish opinion. Fools nobody.
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Macs are overpriced for the hardware they contain, which is for the most part identical to that of a normal PC
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Explain how this is an opinion. They contain the same parts as a PC.

OS X is technically based upon a superior OS which Apple had no part in developing
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Again explain how this is opinion. OS X is based on FreeBSD, a free OS which Apple did not develop, and the source of any and all technical superiority over Windows.

OS X has limited software availability and a severely crippled UI
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I'll admit, the latter part is my opinion as a user.

OS X does have malware, no matter how much you deny it
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You've already been proven wrong here..

At the end of the day, users can make their own choice without having to read biased untruths
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Pure fact.
 
powerfulp said:
Part purpose of the Forum is to give the benefit of experience of users to others.
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I think you hit the nail right on the head here, you have such limited experience that in your eyes what you're saying is true.

You can't claim that because you haven't had malware on two Macs in your small company that every Mac is safe from malware, it's far too small of a test group to make that assessment and when I say small I mean it's completely insignificant.

powerfulp said:
The fact that Mac. equipment is superior in every respect to anything PC...

Apple make the HW as well as the SW which is partly why there is no malware linking to Macs unless you go looking for it.
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Apple do not make hardware. Even iPad manufacturing is subcontracted out the Chinese based company, Foxconn. You may remember this company being in the media recently about a string of suicides at their manufacturing plant due to problems meeting deadlines for the iPad, I think you can see the kind of company that Apple will partner with just to get the cheapest price.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...-look-inside-the-Foxconn-suicide-factory.html

As Monkeh pointed out the hardware in a Mac is almost identical to PC parts, there is nothing special about the hardware in a Mac. Other than the fact you're limited to what Apple provide. I could build an identically specced system for substantially less than what Apple charge, so essentially that extra money you spend is going straight into Apple's pocket and is certainly not getting you better hardware.

I don't really understand why you think that Apple manufacturing the hardware would result in less malware anyway. There is malware out there in the wild, I'm not going to repeat this fact again, it's fairly clear that you're not going to accept it even though you have been given countless sources of information proving it. As I said previously you may remain blinkered but spreading invalid information is not helping anyone, especially those who aren't aware of all the details.
 
Synapse said:
I could build an identically specced system for substantially less than what Apple charge, so essentially that extra money you spend is going straight into Apple's pocket and is certainly not getting you better hardware.
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No kidding, I just decided to spec out a machine to match or exceed the specs of the cheapest iMac. Faster memory, bigger, faster HDD, faster GPU, a BD drive, etc. Including matching monitor and an OS. £300 less than an iMac and there's more to save by shopping around. Better quality components too.
 
The prices are irrelevant Monker. The quality of items determine the price.
As Apple use different quality materials the price is bound to be different.
I prefer quality which lasts longer.
 
powerfulp said:
The prices are irrelevant Monker. The quality of items determine the price.
As Apple use different quality materials the price is bound to be different.
I prefer quality which lasts longer.
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No, they don't. The components are the same. However, the parts I buy come with two, three, five, and seven year warranties...
 
powerfulp said:
Mine come with ten years. That's why Macs last many years longer than
PCs
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Not by default they don't. One year, or three years with AppleCare, for another £140. I dread to think what you pay to keep an obsolete computer for ten years..
 
I don't have to pay. The quality is such that there is no risk to seller to
have to replace. That's Apple.
 
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