Excess Deaths Debate 16th January 2024

aveatry said:
None of those have changed (apart from age ) previously healthy and fit people it has to be something recently.
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Tell me, did you vote for Brexit? Vote Tory ever?

You mentioned child abuse by referencing giving the vaccine to minors was tantamount to child abuse.

Well look at the increase in the number of children

living in poor quality accomodation
living in poverty
going to schools without heating
going to schools needing urgent repair
getting to see a dentist

That's child abuse.
 
SirGalahad said:
Tell me, did you vote for Brexit? Vote Tory ever?

You mentioned child abuse by referencing giving the vaccine to minors was tantamount to child abuse.

Well look at the increase in the number of children

living in poor quality accomodation
living in poverty
going to schools without heating
going to schools needing urgent repair
getting to see a dentist

That's child abuse.
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None of that has anything to do with the conversation on this thred. And twas not me that not started the giving kids vax discussion.
 
aveatry said:
previously healthy and fit people it has to be something recently.
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Have you seen some of the claimed side effects? Luckily some dodged the bullets,

Loose tooth
Gastrointestinal noises abnormal
Eyelid thickening
Teeth brittle
Eyelash changes
Flatulence
Haemorrhoids
Tongue rough
Tooth loss
No adverse event
Breast implant palpable
Hangover
Genital herpes
Gonorrhoea
Malaria
Syphilis
Tooth injury
Exposure to vaccinated person
Multiple fractures
Prescription drug used without a prescription
Ligament sprain
Exposure to extreme temperature
Electric shock
Fall
Pelvic fracture
Sunburn
Penis injury
Face crushing
Scratch
Spinal fracture
Sperm concentration
Drooling
Pregnancy on contraceptive
Premature ejaculation
Breast swelling
Penile size reduced
Sneezing
Snoring
Dandruff

https://assets.publishing.service.g...loads/attachment_data/file/1018450/Pfizer.pdf
 
Straw man
denso13 said:
Have you seen some of the claimed side effects? Luckily some dodged the bullets,

Loose tooth
Gastrointestinal noises abnormal
Eyelid thickening
Teeth brittle
Eyelash changes
Flatulence
Haemorrhoids
Tongue rough
Tooth loss
No adverse event
Breast implant palpable
Hangover
Genital herpes
Gonorrhoea
Malaria
Syphilis
Tooth injury
Exposure to vaccinated person
Multiple fractures
Prescription drug used without a prescription
Ligament sprain
Exposure to extreme temperature
Electric shock
Fall
Pelvic fracture
Sunburn
Penis injury
Face crushing
Scratch
Spinal fracture
Sperm concentration
Drooling
Pregnancy on contraceptive
Premature ejaculation
Breast swelling
Penile size reduced
Sneezing
Snoring
Dandruff

https://assets.publishing.service.g...loads/attachment_data/file/1018450/Pfizer.pdf
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This is what the EU thinks

EU Drug Regulator Warns Against Overuse of COVID ...
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13 Jan 2022 — The European Union's drug regulator is warning that too many doses of COVID-19 vaccines could eventually weaken the body's immune system, ...
 
noseall said:
Genetics
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No. He's quite sure it isn't.

Confident it's the vaccine.

Personally I don't know how he can pin it down to that. Wonder if any tests have been involved, or just confirmation bias.

I've put him in the tin hat conspiracy theory corner until or unless he provides proper supporting evidence
 
This page points out problems with his argument up to 2022

Excess deaths in England and Wales: March 2020 to June 2022 - Office for National Statistics

Number of excess deaths, including deaths due to coronavirus (COVID-19) and due to other causes. Including breakdowns by age, sex and geography.
www.ons.gov.uk

No simple graph on this one so read it

Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics

Provisional number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the latest weeks.
www.ons.gov.uk
 
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