Hot fill appliances, where have they gone?

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Be it dish washer, washing machine, or even the shower, no appliances seem to use the DHW, I have two ways to store power, a battery and a hot water tank, using the DHW seems good as it does not cost me to heat it, so why do washing machines etc now only have cold fill?

The whole idea of using a cool cycle and special washing liquids seems flawed when today the DHW does not cost.
 
Combi boilers, and the time needed to actually get the hw to needed to the machine, plus the small amount of hw actually needed, simply meant it was just a waste of hw.
 
Our cistern is a good distance from the washing machine, and dish washer, and the dish washer is near the sink, so if the dish washer uses hot water that means the pipes are pre-warmed so when we want hot water as the sink, it is there will less delay.

As with many appliances testing in an unheated warehouse is very different to using in the home. We see this with tumble driers, vented puts CH air outside, condenser using water uses more water, condenser using air gets the room hotter, condenser using a heat pump however does not waste heat from the house or heat the house up, and uses less electric.

We look at our electric and see 1694607726848.png in this case 4.5 kW going into the grid, with a pittance paid for it, so at the moment electric costs around 9 p a kWh as I can't store it, but latter it will cost 4 times that as the batteries will not last over night. They stop at 10% so there is some left in case of a power cut, but my hot water never had so much, I get
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I did not expect this, water was heated using oil, boiler would fire up 4 times a week for max half hour, but normally around 20 minutes, so around 30 kWh per week, winter no option can't turn water heating off, but I had thought with 3.5 kWh battery and 4 kWh in the water we would export very little. However that is not the case, and each day we start with a battery at 10%.

Next thing is get the shower to use hot water from the header tank, once we have the cash, the battery and solar can't power the electric shower, so that needs changing, mainly as all using same inverter.

But hot fill would save us money.
 
Be it dish washer, washing machine, or even the shower, no appliances seem to use the DHW
That's because you threw them out? Both my dish washer and washing machine have hot fill. Cold fill only is a better design - simpler and easier to install, less to go wrong.
 
Some dirt like egg for example is better washed off cold, this is specially true with a dish washer, so yes cold fill does do a better job, however in the old house dish washer replaced the old washing machine, so there was a hot water supply, and I used the hot supply which speeded up the dish washer and reduced cost to heat water, as water heated by gas.

However today's dish washer is far to complex to chance a hot fill, and with a washing machine one could not have a 40ºC wash if connected to hot supply, so connecting hot to the cold fill point is not now really an option.

It is however annoying to have to use the battery stored energy rather than the hot water stored energy to run the washing machine, as we often run out of battery, and have to use grid power, but rarely run out of domestic hot water.

However the heating of the DHW is at the moment a mute point, as the iboost has been switching on when it should not be on, so at the moment the isolator is off, and will only be switched on manually once the battery is nearly full. Hope next week the fault will be cured.
 
I have an Ebac machine with hot water fill, i rate it and would buy another if it needed replacing.
7 year warranty too.
 
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