How can a March for Peace be Incompatible with a Memorial for those Killed in Wars.

Odds said:
Tens of thousands of people haven taken part in a pro-Palestinian march in central London.

...the first protest to go near the Israeli embassy in west London since a static rally in October.

Six people were arrested in one incident, on suspicion of assaulting an emergency worker, and police said there were five other arrests.

BBCnews.co.uk

Eleven arrests out of a crowd so large? GBnews hotlines will be melting by now...
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If only they didn't wait a month or so for the first March then these people marching for peace may get a bit more support.
What I don't get why wasn't they marching on the 8th of October?
 
It takes time to organise...

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Thousands of protesters are expected to gather again in central London to call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, the fifth major pro-Palestine demonstration in the capital so far this year. The Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC) said its latest march was due to begin at noon at Hyde Park Corner and would finish at the US embassy in Nine Elms.

The Metropolitan police has provided a map that attenders must follow to avoid being in breach of section 12 of the Public Order Act 2023. A section 14 condition is also in place that requires anyone who is participating in the PSC demo to assemble on the south side of Park Lane.

No Justice. No Peace@the Guardian.co.uk
 
Roy Bloom said:
If the March on Sat 11th, is for peace and a ceasefire, how can it possibly be incompatible with the memoril service for the thousands of dead soldiers killed in the numerous wars?

I get it that it's important to remember those who made the ultimate sacrifice. But if we don't learn anything else, we must learn that wars and violence is never the best method to resolve conflict. Otherwise we'll be holding memorial services again and again and again for evermore. And there'll be more and more casualties of wars.
It's inconceivable that we haven't learned anything from the policy of war.

Sure there's conspiracy theories about the military spending driving capitalism, lions led by donkeys, etc, but when will we ever learn?
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Singing to the river to the sea is a call for genocide
 
Notch7 said:
Singing to the river to the sea is a call for genocide
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What is worst though, some people hoping to beat an enemy and recover their stolen lands, or being the victims of genocide?

It's crazy that we can sit here and be more offended at a handful or people singing a protest song on an organised anti-war demonstration, that we are of a ruthless military machine blowing an entire nation to pieces, and all in technicolour too. About 1.3% of the civilian population have been killed in 3 months, and there's no sign of it ending.

But let's focus on the songs people sing on London streets.
 
As on previous Saturdays in the past six months, there were two marches taking place in London yesterday. The first, a gathering of tens of thousands of full-throated, flag-waving supporters of an immediate ceasefire in Gaza gathered at Hyde Park Corner at noon, and shuffled peaceably and patiently in the sunshine in the direction of the American embassy at Vauxhall, over the river.

The second march was taking place mostly in the imaginations of right-wing commentators and politicians who increasingly choose to see these displays of solidarity with the Palestinian cause only as a provocation and a threat...the latest figure to loud-hailer that version of reality was the government-appointed commissioner for countering extremism, Robin Simcox, who argued on Friday the marches were “a permissive environment for radicalisation”, leading to a hysterical Daily Telegraph front-page headline that read: “London is now a no-go zone for Jews”.

Give Peace a Chance@the Guardian

A no-go zone for Jews, shrieks the Torygraph, ignoring people like Simon Shaw who carried a placard reading “I’m Jewish and I feel totally safe marching for Palestine in London.” He rejected any idea that the Jewish community spoke with one voice: “I come from a different London Jewish tradition to that which the media like to present,” he said, “I’m culturally Jewish but anti-Zionist and atheist, socialist. I’m going to see the new musical about the [anti-fascist] Cable Street protest after this; I see that as my tradition.”

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JP_ said:
What is worst though, some people hoping to beat an enemy and recover their stolen lands, or being the victims of genocide?

It's crazy that we can sit here and be more offended at a handful or people singing a protest song on an organised anti-war demonstration, that we are of a ruthless military machine blowing an entire nation to pieces, and all in technicolour too. About 1.3% of the civilian population have been killed in 3 months, and there's no sign of it ending.

But let's focus on the songs people sing on London streets.
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I was just answering the question posed in the thread title

It’s not a protest song, it’s a call to erase the state of Israel and it’s people.

When you get protestors arriving at MPs homes to protest like Tobias Elwood or outside constituency offices like Keir Starmer, then it’s no longer peaceful protest.


I’m sure the vast majority of the protestors are peaceful and well meaning, but there are some with bad intent and that causes concern for police and govt.
 
Notch7 said:
When you get protestors arriving at MPs homes to protest like Tobias Elwood or outside constituency offices like Keir Starmer, then it’s no longer peaceful protest.
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Agree with that. Getting personal and invasive and threatening their wider families etc, with any MP's is wrong.
 
I think they are probably trying to push the boundaries to get the government to take action, so that they can scream oppression.
 
Notch7 said:
When you get protestors arriving at MPs homes to protest like Tobias Elwood or outside constituency offices like Keir Starmer, then it’s no longer peaceful protest.
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Houses are a bit too personally intimidating, but offices should be fair game.
 
JohnD said:
And what is it when Israelis use the same words?
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different discussion.

I’m not supporting Israel

I’m just saying river to the sea is a known call to genocide. If peace marches want to be seen as err peaceful they shouldn’t used inflammatory chanting.
 
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