If this year is the end of the Tory government, how will you remember them?
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Stymied by Lords and lefties.
not sure why you are tarring everyone one with the same brush ??
i suspect perhaps 5-10% off politicians are fully self-serving with the highest percentage being from the non-compassionate side off politics --- i will let you choose who that may be ??
Who?
Probably the worst time economically and politically for the UK and its inhabitants since WWII. Great though if you if you were a Tory and a chum and had fleeced the UK out of £millions for dud PPI.
There will always be some, of all hues.
With regard to the current shower though, the scum rose to the top, from where they ceased to be a mere irritation, and became harmful in ways that have real consequences for all of us.
They strike me most of all as having been dopey, left wing and incompetent. They've generally wanted to please everybody other than those who actually voted for them and, from the start, set out to be something they are not. This began with Cameron trying to replicate Blair; then the god awful and very weak May; the massive disappointment that was Boris, who turned out to be a rabid ecosocialist and grifter; a lurch towards something new and immediate panic having done so with the autistic liberal that is Truss; and finally the hopeless WEF globalist, Sunak, who is only able to pursue pathetic initiatives nobody ever asked for.
... but really, all of this has just been the sorry continuation of Gordon Brown, and the latter two terms of Blair from which practically everything they implemented turned out badly. Throw globalisation into the mix and we see the steady decline of what governments can achieve.
What is most disturbing to me, as somebody who has no party loyalties and has voted for all three main parties and others, is that the main opposition has been so appalling over the past ten years that the tories were able to keep easily winning. They are far from being appealing now. The quality of the opposition is just as important as the quality of the government.
I think what we also saw, particularly in 2019, as we basically had no government and parliament in a psychotic breakdown over brexit, was that a lot of MPs are not really what they appear to be and the parties they belong to are not what they were.
Final point: we are signed up to so many treaties and dictated to by so many foreign bodies, billionaires and large corporations, and have such an embedded deep state, that I'm not sure how much the politicians can actually do at this point. They cannot control simple things in what is now a highly globalised system. There is the illusion of a government but we don't ever see or even know the names of the people with the real power. The politicians are basically the celebrity figure heads who we all talk about, but this is extremely superficial. Rather like a bad pantomime or soap opera. It's fake.
I hope the Tory party will be destroyed forever, but I feel the same way about Labour and have my doubts about the ability of political parties to do good in general.
... but really, all of this has just been the sorry continuation of Gordon Brown, and the latter two terms of Blair from which practically everything they implemented turned out badly. Throw globalisation into the mix and we see the steady decline of what governments can achieve.
What is most disturbing to me, as somebody who has no party loyalties and has voted for all three main parties and others, is that the main opposition has been so appalling over the past ten years that the tories were able to keep easily winning. They are far from being appealing now. The quality of the opposition is just as important as the quality of the government.
I think what we also saw, particularly in 2019, as we basically had no government and parliament in a psychotic breakdown over brexit, was that a lot of MPs are not really what they appear to be and the parties they belong to are not what they were.
Final point: we are signed up to so many treaties and dictated to by so many foreign bodies, billionaires and large corporations, and have such an embedded deep state, that I'm not sure how much the politicians can actually do at this point. They cannot control simple things in what is now a highly globalised system. There is the illusion of a government but we don't ever see or even know the names of the people with the real power. The politicians are basically the celebrity figure heads who we all talk about, but this is extremely superficial. Rather like a bad pantomime or soap opera. It's fake.
I hope the Tory party will be destroyed forever, but I feel the same way about Labour and have my doubts about the ability of political parties to do good in general.
If they'd drafted even remotely - plausible, let alone workable, legislation, "lords" and "lefties" would have nothing to "stymie".
The recent shower would be out of their depth in a car park puddle.
The first government who had to face (Covid) and had to make decisions that they knew that later with hindsight would be wrong
But they made a series of decisions with their backs to the wall.
I remember watching Boris in March 2020 being rather gobsmacked
But they made a series of decisions with their backs to the wall.
I remember watching Boris in March 2020 being rather gobsmacked
“Lefties” have no power and Labour haven’t been the government for 14 years
Lords are stuffed full of Tories
But hate thinks the last 14 years of failure isn’t the fault of the Conservatives