International Tax-Dodgers

Vinty said:
Ireland is now in talks with other EU states with a view to killing off these proposed new transparency laws.
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Brexit was sold to the ignorant because those who would stand to lose under transparency laws decided to hold onto their ill gotten gains...

And then expand them!
 
Vinty said:
Under Lisbon treaty 2, Ireland was granted the right to keep control of its tax policy.
This allowed Ireland to continue colluding with multinationals to avoid tax.
How do they reconcile this behavior with their image as a Europhile state.
Ireland is now in talks with other EU states with a view to killing off these proposed new transparency laws.
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This blows a coach and horses through the Brexit arguments.
If little ole Ireland could ignore EU tax laws, but UK couldn't even defer the tax on Female products. :rolleyes:
 
Vinty said:
Under Lisbon treaty 2, Ireland was granted the right to keep control of its tax policy.
This allowed Ireland to continue colluding with multinationals to avoid tax.
How do they reconcile this behavior with their image as a Europhile state.
Ireland is now in talks with other EU states with a view to killing off these proposed new transparency laws.

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Ireland has consistently opposed the changes because it is considered a tax measure, which the Government claims should be dealt with using different legislation and by finance ministers.

This would mean unanimous support would be required rather than a qualified majority, meaning the new laws could be vetoed by a member state.
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Ireland was not given any special status.
The Agreement and guarantee applied to all member states.
TAXATION​
Nothing in the Treaty of Lisbon makes any change of any kind, for any Member State, to the extent or
operation of the competence of the European Union in relation to taxation.
This guarantee is clear in stating that nothing in the Lisbon Treaty makes any change to the EU's
competence with respect to taxation and in particular the right of Member States to set their own
corporation tax rates.
https://docs.google.com/viewerng/vi...ee-downloads-files/temp-files/00455624200.pdf​
Therefore the Guarantee allowed all and any member state to collude with multinationals, if they so wished.
Any other member state are also free to set their own corporation tax rates, therefore their commitment to EU is unchanged and unaffected.
I suspect all member states are in talks with other member states to further their own specific interests. It's called lobbying.
Something which the UK seems to be having some difficulty with.
 
It looks like Ireland managed to retain control over its sovereignty that UK failed to do so in the Lisbon Treaty.
NATIONAL DECLARATION BY IRELAND​
Ireland notes that nothing obliges it to participate in permanent structured cooperation as provided
for in the Treaty on European Union. Any decision enabling Ireland to participate will require the
approval of Dáil Éireann in accordance with Irish law.
https://docs.google.com/viewerng/vi...ee-downloads-files/temp-files/00455624200.pdf​
 
Vinty said:
https://amp-dw-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.dw.com/en/eu-leaders-reach-deal-over-lisbon-treaty-concessions-for-ireland/a-4406736?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA==#aoh=16183429276200&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.dw.com/en/eu-leaders-reach-deal-over-lisbon-treaty-concessions-for-ireland/a-4406736
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your 11-year-old link says "The deal agreed Friday foresees that Ireland will receive its guarantees as a legally-binding protocol which EU members would ratify alongside an unspecified future EU"

foresees?

unspecified?

11-year-old?

haven't you got anything more substantial, and up to date?
 
Jesus fkin christ I lost the will to live after page 1.

Some of you need to get a room together and just let it all out :LOL:
 
noseall said:
But hung around till page four and posted in any case. (y)
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Work it out poirot you can't post earlier than the last post. Which was 4 pages later..
Stalker. You're giving me anxiety attacks.
 
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Nothing has changed.

The number of civil investigation cases opened by a HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) fraud unit investigating offshore, corporate and wealthy taxpayers has fallen by more than half in five years, figures reveal. The Observer reported last month that HMRC has not charged a single company under landmark legislation to crack down on tax evasion. Campaigners warned that HMRC was undermining its own deterrents by failing to use its criminal enforcement powers.

The new figures, obtained by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, suggest that the tax authority’s civil enforcement in its fraud investigation service has also declined alongside its use of criminal powers. Civil investigations opened by the offshore, corporate and wealthy unit, part of HMRC’s fraud investigation service, fell from 1,417 in 2018-19 to 627 in 2022-23. HMRC has faced scrutiny in recent years over offshore tax avoidance and evasion. Figures disclosed to the independent thinktank Tax Policy Associates by HMRC in September 2021 revealed that UK taxpayers held nearly £570bn in tax havens, which would include offshore funds.

The Guardian.com

Can i assume some folk will still blame migrants and benefit cheats for the economic woe facing the UK?
 
ellal said:
As of March 2021

The top 10 biggest enablers of global corporate tax abuse

1 British Virgin Islands (British overseas territory)
2 Cayman Islands (British overseas territory)
3 Bermuda (British overseas territory)
4 Netherlands
5 Switzerland
6 Luxembourg
7 Hong Kong
8 Jersey (British crown dependency)
9 Singapore
10 United Arab Emirates

Edit: Ireland came in as number eleven btw.
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The top ten tax havens for corporations in 2023 are...

10 - Hong Kong
9 -Isle of Man
8 - Panama
7 - Delaware; USA
6 - Ireland
5 - Cayman Islands
4 - Bermuda
3 - Switzerland
2 - Singapore
1 - Luxembourg

Advisory Excellence.com

Vinty will be chuffed to see Ireland rising up the charts.:mrgreen:
 
The U.K. continues to lead the so-called “axis of tax avoidance,” which drains an estimated $151 billion from global coffers through corporate profit shifting, a new report found.

Countries could lose $4.7 trillion in tax revenue over the next decade as multinational corporations and wealthy individuals continue to use tax havens to underpay taxes, according to a new report. And among the jurisdictions enabling the loss of public money, the report says, are those that set global tax rules.

ICIJ.org
 
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