Is Stockton on Tees a ****hole?

Mottie said:
The man in the street doesn’t see that but he can’t help seeing piles of shìt building up in the street and wondering where the money he paid to the council for these services has gone.
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Are you aware how many councils are just about bankrupt ?
 
ReganAndCarter said:
In France at the moment and haven't really seen any litter in the towns. Imagine it may be different in some big cities. Other noticeable things are the uncrowded roads a almost free of potholes. Roads in Bristol are turning third world. Spend all the time driving weaving around them to save my suspension.
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France is indeed a lovely country with fantastic roads, sensible speed limits and hardly any traffic jams. It's largely down to a few things:

1. They don't get the rain and freeze that we get which damages roads
2. They prefer to work locally and drive a lot less, though that has probably changed post covid.
3. The population is distributed better
4. It's 50% bigger for the same population.
5. Councils are actually focused on making life better for people, rather than finding new ways to raise revenue.
 
motorbiking said:
France is indeed a lovely country with fantastic roads, sensible speed limits and hardly any traffic jams. It's largely down to a few things:

1. They don't get the rain and freeze that we get which damages roads
2. They prefer to work locally and drive a lot less, though that has probably changed post covid.
3. The population is distributed better
4. It's 50% bigger for the same population.
5. Councils are actually focused on making life better for people, rather than finding new ways to raise revenue.
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And the roads are either funded privately or from general taxation.
Although the UK 'Road Fund Licence' has long ago not been used to fund the roads.

I would argue some all of your points (what did you expect?) :rolleyes: (I nearly forgot that)
1. The rain they get is often torrential and the roads and drainage is built to cope with it, without flooding local fields, rivers, etc.
2. There has been a decades long migration to the cities, especially for the young.
3. as above. Although if you were referring to the distribution and funding of 'non-capital cities' I would agree. There are 'capital cities' for each region, which tends to make the "levelling up" redundant.
4. That makes for more sparsely populated areas, rather than equal population distribution.
5. There are some, what might appear minimal. differences but appear to have great effects, e.g. there is aometimes a 130 kph limit, it's easier to be done for speeding, the cameras are not so well indicated, there are more mobile cameras, there are more spot checks, there is less 'lenience' for speeding. But the fines and points are more lenient. One would expect the latter issue to create more speeding offences, the speeding does occur, but on open roads in rural areas, with practically empty motorways, not in towns and cities, where limits are rigorously observed.
Another minimal point is to include the TV licence with the 'council tax'.
 
motorbiking said:
You obviously haven't heard of Rassemblement National.
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It's not in 'power', and never has been. it's best showing is in the European Parliament.
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motorbiking said:
5. Councils are actually focused on making life better for people, rather than finding new ways to raise revenue.
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That's a novel concept. Our governments/local governments have only really achieved this for new arrivals from the third world.

And council tax here seems to be between a third and half of UK. But I suppose other taxes may be higher.
 
ReganAndCarter said:
That's a novel concept. Our governments/local governments have only really achieved this for new arrivals from the third world.

And council tax here seems to be between a third and half of UK. But I suppose other taxes may be higher.
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20% goes on council employee pensions.

So thats people without a defined benefits pension paying £1 in £5 council tax to pay for other people's retirement.
 
If only people would ask themselves. Can I afford to have kids, can I give them a good home, am I in a good state of mind to bring them up. Before having them.
 
ReganAndCarter said:
And council tax here seems to be between a third and half of UK. But I suppose other taxes may be higher.
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Social charges, based on your salary, similar to UK's NI. But employers pay a greater amount than UK employers.

Many are lower, car tax = nil,
VAT - comparable,
fuel = similar, these days, used to be lower, Diesel still is lower than petrol.
alcohol and tobacco = lower, but tobacco levy is catching up fast.
Income Tax = lower. but the bands vary more towards taxing the higher salaries.
 
motorbiking said:
20% goes on council employee pensions.

So thats people without a defined benefits pension paying £1 in £5 council tax to pay for other people's retirement.
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That's only half of it. Brother has an easy life at the council. His pay is good, always seems to be off on hols, detached house paid for, Merc on drive, works from home, sports club membership and plans to retire long before 60. He started off keen, but soon realised that wasn't the way and eased off like eveyone else. Although he's over qualified for what he does he admits that many others he works with (even his superiors) would be unemployable anywhere else - especially private sector.

Council is the last bastion of well paid inefficient British industry where results are optional.
 
Mottie said:
Oh shut up you Labour apologist! They run the street cleaning operation through the whole borough. If it’s not them failing to clean the streets, who is it? Maybe it’s the section of the Newham population that has come over from ****hole countries and think they are still at home? Good job we don’t have a river running through Green Street - it might end up looking like the Ganges!

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Zero evidence it has anything to do with Labour Council

I routinely see litter left at the church lychee gate and next to seats on the green in my village.....caused by local chavs. I could post a picture and use your argument it is proof how sh1t a Tory council is. But I won't because I'm not that dumb
 
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