Israel destroying Palestinian cemetries

Mottie said:
I was sympathising with those taking revenge that lost loved ones when Israel was attacked but I must admit I did feel some sympathy for that bloke that got shot on the news last night in a group that were waving a white flag. Then again, the person that shot him may have known someone who was gang raped on that day while their child was cut out of their body or their tits were cut off.
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Another with a selective 1 way view.
 
Odds said:
However, most of this testimony was based on reports from witnesses who saw the mutilated bodies long after the supposed crimes had occurred.
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What, you mean they weren’t interviewing them in the midst of the invasion? How odd.
 
Mottie said:
I was sympathising with those taking revenge that lost loved ones when Israel was attacked but I must admit I did feel some sympathy for that bloke that got shot on the news last night in a group that were waving a white flag. Then again, the person that shot him may have known someone who was gang raped on that day while their child was cut out of their body or their tits were cut off.
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Excellent so Palestinians have been killed and driven off their lands since 1947, so they have a right to take revenge? According to you they do.
 
SirGalahad said:
Excellent so Palestinians have been killed and driven off their lands since 1947, so they have a right to take revenge? According to you they do.
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Justifying people taking revenge in 2023 against people that weren’t even born for something that happened in 1947 is stretching it a bit far even for you. I’m all for revenge and retaliation as an immediate response or should the Israelis wait until 2089 to do it?
 
Odds said:
You have interviews with witnesses to atrocities by Hamas?
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We have witnesses and TV coverage of atrocities carried out by Hamas. We all saw the poor girl being carried around on the back of a truck, already dead being beaten, spat on and celebrated by everybody. And the other girl being shoved into a car, bleeding and already having the arse torn out of her because of multiple rape. Women were being treated for broken pelvises after horrific rapes. Were they all Hamas or were they the general Palestinian population? I didn’t see anybody try to stop them, did you?
 
Odds said:
No evidence has been provided for that incident so must be taken in the same context of British propaganda from WWI, describing German soldiers bayonetting children during the advance through Belgin towns.
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It was on the BBC site - whatever veracity that gives it, or not. There are some extreme videos. It doesn't justify anything, though.

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It's a war, which says it all. Kids will get raped and bits cut off.
On both sides. Both sides are doing wrong. As has happened since biblical times.
It's naive to not expect it.
Silly to keep mentioning it. It won't make it stop.
Write to your MP then shut up.
 
Mottie said:
Justifying people taking revenge in 2023 against people that weren’t even born for something that happened in 1947 is stretching it a bit far even for you. I’m all for revenge and retaliation as an immediate response or should the Israelis wait until 2089 to do it?
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Yet we asked for reparations from those who were not involved post war.
 
Mottie said:
We have witnesses and TV coverage of atrocities carried out by Hamas. We all saw the poor girl being carried around on the back of a truck, already dead being beaten, spat on and celebrated by everybody. And the other girl being shoved into a car, bleeding and already having the arse torn out of her because of multiple rape. Women were being treated for broken pelvises after horrific rapes. Were they all Hamas or were they the general Palestinian population? I didn’t see anybody try to stop them, did you?
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Most of the above has been debunked.


This article is from 2014.
I'm surprised they didn't charge pay to view.

Israelis gather on hillsides to watch and cheer as military drops bombs on Gaza | Israel | The Guardian

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Mottie said:
Justifying people taking revenge in 2023 against people that weren’t even born for something that happened in 1947 is stretching it a bit far even for you. I’m all for revenge and retaliation as an immediate response or should the Israelis wait until 2089 to do it?
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But can you accept that feelings sit deep?

No provocation exists, or existed
 
Mottie said:
Justifying people taking revenge in 2023 against people that weren’t even born for something that happened in 1947 is stretching it a bit far even for you
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Jews justifying the taking of land from Palestinians in the 21st century in revenge for something that allegedly happened 2000 years ago is stretching it even further.
 
Odds said:
You have interviews with witnesses to atrocities by Hamas?
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Most of these so called mass rape stories, beheaded babies ect, have already been debunked.
Thats not to say there might have been individual cases of inappropriate behaviour by Hamas, if so, then its up to the relevent authorities to carry out investigations to identify the individuals involved and deal with them as the law demands.
 
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