Law on ownership - Slabs going to tip

[Big_Jon]

Hello

This is going to be a very bizarre question.

A neighbour of mine was getting a gardener to replace a patio with a new one. The gardener was smashing up the slabs so put them in the back of his van.

I asked the gardener if I can have the slabs. He send yes, he'll stack them up for me instead of smashing them up.

When I was moving them to my property, the home owner comes out and asks me what I am doing with his slabs. I told him that the gardener said I could have them. But he was very insistent that the slabs was his, and I should of asked him first. He said I can buy them.

I thought I was saving the gardener a job. Are they still his slabs knowing that he has instructed the gardener to get rid of them?

What is the law on this? Shall I move all the slabs back and ask for them the "official way"?

 

[foxhole]

They remain owner’s property until disposed off.(Even if thrown in a skip they remain his property ).

 

[Big_Jon]

They remain owner’s property until disposed off.(Even if thrown in a skip they remain his property ).

So I should take them back then? Can he store them on land he doesn't own? That's where they were being stored.

On a weird side thought, does that mean I own my rubbish in the back on the bin lorry, all the time the bin lorry is driving around, until the the point it is tipped in to the landfill?

 

[Big_Jon]

They remain owner’s property until disposed off.(Even if thrown in a skip they remain his property ).

They weren't thrown in a skip. They were stacked on land he doesn't own

 

[just pumps]

Make your mind up, first the gardener was taking them away now you say the owner is storing them. Neighbour being bloody minded if you ask me.

 

[JohnD]

"Are they still his slabs?"

Yes.

 

[Big_Jon]

Make your mind up, first the gardener was taking them away now you say the owner is storing them. Neighbour being bloody minded if you ask me.

The gardener was stacking them for me to take away. Otherwise he would just be smashing them up. I am very tempted just to cart them all around and tell the gardener I don't want them any more as they come with trouble.

 

[Diver Fred]

Give them back. If he's that stupid to pay to have them taken away and pay for disposal then he deserves the costs involved.
At the local tips to me it's 3 quid a slab to dispose of with a limit of 3 or 5 per day for complete slabs or £3 for 20kgs of rubble per day.
Most gardeners I know take slabs away, store and reuse complete ones at a cost of £5 (2x2) or £6 (2x3) so I think you started to have a bargain. But no longer.

 

[Big_Jon]

Give them back. If he's that stupid to pay to have them taken away and pay for disposal then he deserves the costs involved.
At the local tips to me it's 3 quid a slab to dispose of with a limit of 3 or 5 per day for complete slabs or £3 for 20kgs of rubble per day.
Most gardeners I know take slabs away, store and reuse complete ones at a cost of £5 (2x2) or £6 (2x3) so I think you started to have a bargain. But no longer.

I don't know if the damage has been done so to speak. But I am very in the mind set just to take them back around tomorrow and allow them to get rid of them. I thought I was saving the builder a job. But due to the home owners seemed to be over aggressive nature just restore the situation before I got involved.

 

[johnny2007]

Put all the slabs in his property in the most inconvenient place to be transported to the van.
The gardener must be well peed off.
And your neighbour deserves to find a family of moles under his newly lied lawn...

 

[Big_Jon]

Put all the slabs in his property in the most inconvenient place to be transported to the van.
The gardener must be well peed off.
And your neighbour deserves to find a family of moles under his newly lied lawn...

Please don't tempt me. But I best not burn bridges. Just tell the poor gardener he has more to do.

 

[Old Salt]

Let them go back home, it will make your life easier in the long run. When the neighbour asks you for help or to borrow something remind him about the slabs and tell him to do one, but yeah you should have asked first.

 

[Big_Jon]

Let them go back home, it will make your life easier in the long run. When the neighbour asks you for help or to borrow something remind him about the slabs and tell him to do one, but yeah you should have asked first.

I do it in the morning then. Thinking about it yes I should of asked. But I asked the gardener, I thought he would of been entrusted to be able to dispose of the waste. I was trying to help then out by giving them some more space to operate.

I mean if you hired a gardener would you want him to be bothering you at work to ask about some slabs you are getting rid off anyway?

This how things has ruined my evening.

 

[sxturbo]

It's a bit petty.

Imo he has instructed the gardener to dispose of them.

This leaves the gardener to dispose of them via any legal method he deems fit,

If they were being put in a skip then fair enough knock on the neighbours door and ask. But they were being broken and put in the gardener's van so i believe the gardener is the one to make the decision.

However as others have said stick them back round the neighbours for them being petty. I would also put them in a really annoying position, like on their drive in front of their car so they can't get out...

 

[foxhole]

So I should take them back then? Can he store them on land he doesn't own? That's where they were being stored.

On a weird side thought, does that mean I own my rubbish in the back on the bin lorry, all the time the bin lorry is driving around, until the the point it is tipped in to the landfill?

Once your rubbish is in bin lorry it belongs to the council if they use contractors.