Manual diverter replacement

[abssm]

Hi all, my daughter has just moved into her new house. She has an Ideal Logic plus 15 boiler that was installed two years ago.

Attached to this is a Drayton Lifestyle controller that's for the hit water only.

She has central heating through the house, however there is no thermostat but all the radiators have thermostat valves in them.

To select the heating/water/both there is a manual 3 port diverter valve in the airing cupboard. Hopefully if I can attach photos it will make more sense.

Anyway to select heating/ water or both she has to go upstairs and turn the selector switch to whichever position she needs.

This seems totally stupid and inefficient.

If I was to buy a hive system and a motorised 3 port valve will this solve this weird setup?

Will the wiring from the boiler just be a straight swap to the hive back plate as there are two wires going into the current controller even though it only turns on the water and the manual diverter chooses what happens with it

Thanks in advance

 

[Madrab]

Not as simple as just adding a HIVE and 3 port I'm afraid.

Firstly - looking at the manual valve that's there, all that is doing is opening up the flow to the HW cylinder or the CH or increments of both. Ideally you don't want the system to become a Y plan, which adding a 3 port MID valve and HIVE would essentially do.

It also needs understood if the HW cylinder has a cylinder stat and presumably the CH is just relying on it's internal stat to control the boiler at the moment.

Really the system needs looked over by an experienced pro and an interlocked system designed and implemented. If the boiler was only installed 2 years ago then whoever did the job didn't do it properly. They haven't followed any standards whatsoever and lucky if the boiler manufacturer would honour the warranty, is there a mag filter installed?

 

[Deleted member 317380]

Majority of not all wiring should be accessible via the wiring centre in the cylinder cupboard. Ideally upgrade to an S-plan (x2 motorised valves) and wiring alterations, so I’m answer to most of your questions, No. Unless you’ve done this stuff before, then as per @Madrab, get a professional in, or perhaps query why it wasn’t done to current standards at the time?

 

[abssm]

Bugger. Thankyou for for this.

No cylinder stat.

No mag filter.

I am assuming if she wants central heating then she will have to turn the boiler on and then put the diverter to heating. Attached is the commissioning paperwork. Does it look proper?

I just found this pump over the boiler too

 

[abssm]

Thanks Anxious

There is no wiring in the airing cupboard at all except for a pump to increase the water pressure to the shower

 

[Deleted member 317380]

Thanks Anxious

There is no wiring in the airing cupboard at all except for a pump to increase the water pressure to the shower

In which case, it would need a big upgrade.

 

[Deleted member 317380]

Bugger. Thankyou for for this.

No cylinder stat.

No mag filter.

I am assuming if she wants central heating then she will have to turn the boiler on and then put the diverter to heating. Attached is the commissioning paperwork. Does it look proper?

I just found this pump over the boiler too

Well, define proper. It’s been filled in which is more than some, however as you can see no boiler plus options have been entered. Maybe installer has no morals or customer was tight as they come, if the latter & me I would have walked

 

[Madrab]

As suggested - it's had some details entered but is it compliant - I wouldn't say so. Is there a recent gas safety cert for it? If not, I'd get someone in to give it the once over.

You say there's no cylinder stat but he's entered there is. Is it compliant with regs - I wouldn't say so - marked it yes. No min readings taken, no interlock, Boiler plus (2017), etc He has also said there is a system filter fitted?? No sign of one either?

I'd get in touch with Ideal and see if it's been registered. Has it been notified, i.e. Is there a LA/GS certificate covering the install, in the paperwork?

she will have to turn the boiler on and then put the diverter to heating

Yep