NI Protocol - Windsor Framework

Vinty said:
You are correct, Sinn Féin didn't bring the government down for 2 years, it was 3 years actually.
Why did Sinn Féin bring down the government?was it because the NHS was in crisis, was it because of the state of the education system, the rise in homelessness, or the economy perhaps?.
The reason Sinn Féin collapsed the government had nothing to do with any of the above.
It was to force Westminster to impose a language act on N.Ireland costing 100's of millions a year.
Money that could be better used helping people, is wasted on trying to teach Irish to people who can't even speak English properly.
The City Hall had a dedicated Irish language telephone line for people who wanted to make complaints or enquiries about council services in Irish.
You could call and have your enquiry dealt with in Irish, they paid some ejit to answer the phone to other ejits who wanted to talk in Irish.
This fiasco cost 1000's a year, don't know whether it still exists, apparently the only calls they got were from pranksters in the pub.
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It was dup’s immature reaction to the irish language act that caused the problems. Its pretty fundamental to be able to communicate in your own language in your own country. As for wasted millions on crack pot schemes, three words - cash for ash.
 
blup said:
Its pretty fundamental to be able to communicate in your own language in your own country
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I agree with that.
What language (or version of) do the people of N.Ireland speak?


As far as i know, It wasn't the DUP who brought down the Stormont assembly for 3 years.
It was Sinn Féin.
Do you have comprehension problems.
Bringing down a government in order to achieve a silly language act is hardly the sign of political maturity.
 
Vinty said:
I agree with that.
What language (or version of) do the people of N.Ireland speak?


As far as i know, It wasn't the DUP who brought down the Stormont assembly for 3 years.
It was Sinn Féin.
Do you have comprehension problems.
Bringing down a government in order to achieve a silly language act is hardly the sign of political maturity.
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Scots Gaelic hasn't been spoken in Ireland for centuries, an immature response to a serious attempt to promote and protect the Irish language in the island of Ireland.
 
It's worse than you thought, they're speaking Welsh in Patagonia.
 
blup said:
Scots Gaelic hasn't been spoken in Ireland for centuries, an immature response to a serious attempt to promote and protect the Irish language in the island of Ireland.
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In the early 1960s there were an estimated 100,000 native speakers of Ulster-Scots in Northern Ireland and Co Donegal. In the absence of census data no one knows for certain how many people speak Ulster-Scots today. Following the 2011 Census, we know that there are approximately 140,000 people who have indicated some ability in Ulster-Scots. It should be noted however that the figures from the 1960s were based on a much more scientific exercise, so it would not be appropriate to draw direct comparisons between the two sets of figures.

It's different to Irish Gaelic since it isn't a Celtic lnguage but derives from the Anglo-Saxon of Northumbria, brought to Ulster by 17th century settlers. Ironically, Vinty is arguing against his own heritage as a Protestant Ulsterman.
 
Odds said:
In the early 1960s there were an estimated 100,000 native speakers of Ulster-Scots in Northern Ireland and Co Donegal. In the absence of census data no one knows for certain how many people speak Ulster-Scots today. Following the 2011 Census, we know that there are approximately 140,000 people who have indicated some ability in Ulster-Scots. It should be noted however that the figures from the 1960s were based on a much more scientific exercise, so it would not be appropriate to draw direct comparisons between the two sets of figures.

It's different to Irish Gaelic since it isn't a Celtic lnguage but derives from the Anglo-Saxon of Northumbria, brought to Ulster by 17th century settlers. Ironically, Vinty is arguing against his own heritage as a Protestant Ulsterman.
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Around 30k now, compared to 40 % of the RoI population having some knowledge of Gaelic, a truly indiginous language, but its not a numbers game as you say.
 
JohnD said:
Luckily their numbers have dwindled.

The number in Parliament will dwindle still more soon.
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Foolish gant pretends not to know that the number of Brexers who have realised their mistake is huge.

And that Johnson's effort to stuff Parliament with his sycophants is unravelling.
 
@gant

And Boris' brexers are job-hunting


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gant said:
...luckily...
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Yes, luckily the people who damaged our country are losing power and support.

Sadly it will take sensible people a lot of time, effort and money to repair some of the damage.

First job will be to stop digging.
 
Odds said:
In one sense, yes – but it’s a bit more complicated than that
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What sort of answer is that.
Sinn Féin refused to re enter government unless their core demand of a stand alone Irish language act was granted.
They stayed out for three years and only returned when the British government overrode the N.I. government and legislated for an Irish language act.
There is nothing complicated about that.
 
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