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Nurses suing their employer for allowing trans women to use their changing rooms

A group of NHS employees in Darlington say they are made to feel unsafe by a male staff member who identifies as a woman and after raising concerns their manager was called in by HR and told they needed to be "re-educated". A transgender charity says people need to be more accepting.
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Dude hadn’t even transitioned. Bonkers
 
I've been at gigs or football matches where the queues for the ladies loos were so long that more than once a woman came into the men's loos and ****ed in the urinals...

Didn't see any complaints, so double standards?
 
I admit to struggling with much of this trans stuff. On the one hand I think yes, any adult who genuinely feels they're in the wrong body should have support to work through that in whatever way. However on the other I can't get my head around things like trans women competing against real women in sport, or stories like this about changing rooms, toilets etc.

I don't have kids but I have nieces and nephews. If out for a meal with the family and my young niece heads off to the toilet, I don't relish the thought of a 'women' walking in behind her who a few months earlier was a man. Same scenario for changing rooms.

For that matter, if I'm heading to the gents (are we still allowed to use that term?) I wouldn't feel overly comfortable with a trans or real women being in that space.

Of course, it's not logical to assert every trans person is a danger to real men/women/boys/girls, let's face it hardly any of them will be. However there's simply something about sharing these spaces, especially when kids are involved, that doesn't rest easy with me.
 
ellal said:
I've been at gigs or football matches where the queues for the ladies loos were so long that more than once a woman came into the men's loos and ****ed in the urinals...

Didn't see any complaints, so double standards?
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At the urinal? I’ve seen it but they always go in the loo for a sit down. You sure they were real women? Did you look?
 
Mottie said:
At the urinal? I’ve seen it but they always go in the loo for a sit down. You sure they were real women? Did you look?
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Yes, at the urinal...

But then you don't believe men also have to do a 'sit down' as well?
No sh*t sherlock ;)

And no I didn't look (you probably would?), but it was fairly obvious :rolleyes:

And strangely enough some of our European neighbours have had a more up front attitude for decades...

For example, have you ever been to Montpellier airport?
I have been there several times since the 90's, and also recently.
And they have open all gender toilets...

And some Scandinavian countries have a policy at their swimming pools that before going for a swim everyone has to shower naked.
Often in communal areas. No-one 'looks'!

Politicians/bureaucrats in the UK play on the prudishness of the UK population in general rather that create a climate that everyone is ok with and not embarrassed with!
 
Just got back from a week in Jersey CI all the public toilets were spotlessly clean, unlike ours and all the male toilets had womens sanitary products in a box on the wall saying help your self, I passed on that one, unusual for me when there is a freeby on offer
 
ellal said:
I've been at gigs or football matches where the queues for the ladies loos were so long that more than once a woman came into the men's loos and ****ed in the urinals...

Didn't see any complaints, so double standards?
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This is a facility where they are:
1 - getting undressed
2 - have the right to separate changing facilities to men.
ellal said:
Yes, at the urinal...

But then you don't believe men also have to do a 'sit down' as well?
No sh*t sherlock ;)

And no I didn't look (you probably would?), but it was fairly obvious :rolleyes:

And strangely enough some of our European neighbours have had a more up front attitude for decades...

For example, have you ever been to Montpellier airport?
I have been there several times since the 90's, and also recently.
And they have open all gender toilets...

And some Scandinavian countries have a policy at their swimming pools that before going for a swim everyone has to shower naked.
Often in communal areas. No-one 'looks'!

Politicians/bureaucrats in the UK play on the prudishness of the UK population in general rather that create a climate that everyone is ok with and not embarrassed with!
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So what you are basically saying is that, if I fancy it.. I can go to the female changing room in my gym and have a good look at all the naked tits n a@se I want, provided I identify as a woman?
 
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Go to Santa pod race way for a large meeting and woman cleaners are wandering into the gents all the time

I had a mishap when I went in there lost my concentration and trod on my b*** end
 
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