Old folk don't remember the tory 3-day week!

gas112 said:
Whenever labour get in after they get voted out the tories are usually in power for far longer afterwards as the electorate think ah well we gave labour a chance but they are still shyte
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Think this present lot is doing better or has done better than the previous labour lot?

You are full blown Tory and would keep going with this lot
 
carmanmemoranda said:
Think this present lot is doing better or has done better than the previous labour lot?

You are full blown Tory and would keep going with this lot
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How can they be doing better than last labour lot if they are not actually in power . ?
 
blup said:
Can't see Labour being more than a one term government at most, so she will have to be prepared to move early. She is young though.
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I can see you have no trust in Keir Starmer.

I think if he wins he will do better than you believe.

Please try and remember he is severely constrained by the political landscape at the moment: ie the party in power is governing by gaslighting, propaganda and straightforward lies. Trying to win against that when the media aids and abets is very hard.
 
gas112 said:
Whenever labour get in after they get voted out the tories are usually in power for far longer afterwards as the electorate think ah well we gave labour a chance but they are still shyte
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The Conservative Party is one of the most successful in the Western world.
Sadly successful doesn’t mean it’s good for the country.

This country has a very weak democracy which allows the rich and powerful to dictate politics.

Murdoch has more say who runs the country than the voters.


gas112 said:
Whenever labour get in after they get voted out the tories are usually in power for far longer afterwards
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Labour was in power between 1997 and 2010

Current Tories in power 2010 to 2024

I wouldn’t say that’s “far longer”
 
Notch7 said:
I can see you have no trust in Keir Starmer.

I think if he wins he will do better than you believe.

Please try and remember he is severely constrained by the political landscape at the moment: ie the party in power is governing by gaslighting, propaganda and straightforward lies. Trying to win against that when the media aids and abets is very hard.
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Labour would invest more in health, including public health, judging by previous administrations. They don't favour a private health service as the tories clearly do. But the current state of public finances suggests they won't be able to do things much differently, and his history suggests he is prepared to significantly change his views in order to get power. He has all but destroyed the left in the parliamentary party. Labour without an influential left wing can only drift further to the right.
 
Notch7 said:
The Conservative Party is one of the most successful in the Western world.
Sadly successful doesn’t mean it’s good for the country.

This country has a very weak democracy which allows the rich and powerful to dictate politics.

Murdoch has more say who runs the country than the voters.



Labour was in power between 1997 and 2010

Current Tories in power 2010 to 2024

I wouldn’t say that’s “far longer”
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Have they lost yet ? look at the state of them a few years ago far worse than now and increased their majority
 
gas112 said:
Have they lost yet ? look at the state of them a few years ago far worse than now and increased their majority
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Worse than now? That implies they are getting better.

They are not. Anybody with any awareness knows that
 
JohnD said:
Amazingly, there are old conservative supporters who have forgotten the 3-day week under Conservative prime minister Edward Heath.
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Also amazingly, there are young people who have no experience of the good old days of labour and the unions either.
 
Mottie said:
Also amazingly, there are young people who have no experience of the good old days of labour and the unions either.
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Push people into very low standards of living and it will rear its head again.

Life goes in cycles, those who could change things like reward and cost of living, never seem to want to.

Some people ask why that is.
 
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