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Hi
Im new to this forum, hopefully im in the right area for this.
Ok, so i need power outdoors to power some decking lights (16 x 0.6w) and a pond fountain, which i believe was around 400w- may be wrong there but its definitely a very small amount.
So, i have no power in that area. Closest power point is in my outhouse. A single socket, which itself, spurs off a socket in the kitchen- which is on the ring main.
So, the socket in the outhouse, between that and the area where I'd need the socket, is a wall, two slabs, then a large area of soil where the decking will be built.
Ive had qoutes for installing a permanent outdoor double socket, via armoured cable and a 13a fused spur- im not sure if he would spur off the single outhouse socket or spur off the kitchen socket again. I read you cant spur off a socket twice - he said said it would be ok as its a fused spur.
Anyways.
1. Qoute one £180. Found him on a website which gives a list of local part p registered sparkys. He doesn't provide a cert, said he wouldn't for small jobs like this. I dont know if i need one? Ive asked him to do the job but he's slow in responding so i think he'll flake out.
2. Quote two £190. He said he'll include a cert. Found him on the same website for part p guys. But then he got abit mardy when i asked if he'll price match so he no longer an option
3. Quote three was like £255. And extra £50 for cert. Found him on Facebook.
Last option is diy. Purchase a 2.5mmsq heavy duty outdoor double socket for about £70. Plug it into an rcd adapter (the CU has rcd anyway but this is extra precaution). Run the cable from outhouse via a pvc conduit then, through the wall, down to the slabs, lift the slabs, bury it, then it comes out on the soil.
On the soil, ill the cabling sat on the ground on soil, as decking will be built around is, so the cables are covered. The double socket would be screwed onto a joist (this would be the case with the professional job). It would be a permanent connection. WOULD THIS BE SAFE- lets not go overkill with regs- regular layman have you done this safely?
I know armoured cable is ideal, but im a diyer not a sparky, i wouldnt know how to connect armoured cable or if im doing it properly. I mean, i can wire a plug, and wired lights and replaced sockets and light switches, but this is abit different.
Also- since i can unplug it, is it a part p notify able issue? I mean, i could literally unplug and cut the wire and voila it was never there? - im looking to sell so dont want problems.
I know extension leads are not for permanent use, but hey why make outdoor ones and not let us use it permanently!
I cant clip it to a brick wall to route it to where i need it, the layout doesn't fit that scenario. I could run it across fences to reach the area i need but thats alot more cable and distance, longer the cable more issues right.
Ps im no expert. But im a damn quick learner.
School me peoples gime your thoughts.
But not those by the book people. I need the sensible, but bending the rules ones. You know the ones that take the risk and dont wear a condom sometimes.
Thanks!
Im new to this forum, hopefully im in the right area for this.
Ok, so i need power outdoors to power some decking lights (16 x 0.6w) and a pond fountain, which i believe was around 400w- may be wrong there but its definitely a very small amount.
So, i have no power in that area. Closest power point is in my outhouse. A single socket, which itself, spurs off a socket in the kitchen- which is on the ring main.
So, the socket in the outhouse, between that and the area where I'd need the socket, is a wall, two slabs, then a large area of soil where the decking will be built.
Ive had qoutes for installing a permanent outdoor double socket, via armoured cable and a 13a fused spur- im not sure if he would spur off the single outhouse socket or spur off the kitchen socket again. I read you cant spur off a socket twice - he said said it would be ok as its a fused spur.
Anyways.
1. Qoute one £180. Found him on a website which gives a list of local part p registered sparkys. He doesn't provide a cert, said he wouldn't for small jobs like this. I dont know if i need one? Ive asked him to do the job but he's slow in responding so i think he'll flake out.
2. Quote two £190. He said he'll include a cert. Found him on the same website for part p guys. But then he got abit mardy when i asked if he'll price match so he no longer an option
3. Quote three was like £255. And extra £50 for cert. Found him on Facebook.
Last option is diy. Purchase a 2.5mmsq heavy duty outdoor double socket for about £70. Plug it into an rcd adapter (the CU has rcd anyway but this is extra precaution). Run the cable from outhouse via a pvc conduit then, through the wall, down to the slabs, lift the slabs, bury it, then it comes out on the soil.
On the soil, ill the cabling sat on the ground on soil, as decking will be built around is, so the cables are covered. The double socket would be screwed onto a joist (this would be the case with the professional job). It would be a permanent connection. WOULD THIS BE SAFE- lets not go overkill with regs- regular layman have you done this safely?
I know armoured cable is ideal, but im a diyer not a sparky, i wouldnt know how to connect armoured cable or if im doing it properly. I mean, i can wire a plug, and wired lights and replaced sockets and light switches, but this is abit different.
Also- since i can unplug it, is it a part p notify able issue? I mean, i could literally unplug and cut the wire and voila it was never there? - im looking to sell so dont want problems.
I know extension leads are not for permanent use, but hey why make outdoor ones and not let us use it permanently!
I cant clip it to a brick wall to route it to where i need it, the layout doesn't fit that scenario. I could run it across fences to reach the area i need but thats alot more cable and distance, longer the cable more issues right.
Ps im no expert. But im a damn quick learner.
School me peoples gime your thoughts.
But not those by the book people. I need the sensible, but bending the rules ones. You know the ones that take the risk and dont wear a condom sometimes.
Thanks!
