Palestinian Liberation:Offensive?
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Denso claimed to have accessed a genuine Hamas website using a vpn.
Either it was a genuine claim, in which case he could provide us with the name of the vpn he used, and which server he logged onto.
If he can't, and he hasn't been able to so far, his claim was quite obviously disingenuine.
Therefore all of his supposed translations come from other questionable sources, e.g Israel or USA
And of course you'll all choose the most desirable translation, according to your own biases, even if the chosen translation is a corruption of the genuine article. You'll never know until some future date when alternatives are available, and you're sufficiently interested or unbiased to read them.
Now about your persistent dishonest false accusation:
As you've made the accusation multiple times, you must have ammassed a lot of evidence to present, but so far there's been nothing, nada, not an iota.
Until you can present evidence to prove your accusation, you'll be in the same bracket as motorbiking, johnny2007, et al - a dishonest abusive troll.
Now there's several of you on the case, you, johnny2007, motorbiking and undoubtedly several others. One would have thought that your combined brain power could find some evidence to support and prove your accusations.
So far, it's been a total, miserable absence of evidence. Yet you continue with your dishonest, false accusations. Proof, if any was ever needed, that you're a dishonest, abusive troll.
Prove something that is obvious over a given period of time of wittering.
Why go on a path leading to nowhere leading to countless pages of dross as you squeal your 'innocence'
Why go on a path leading to nowhere leading to countless pages of dross as you squeal your 'innocence'
Can you present any evidence to support the numerous accusations from multiple users?
In which case "Why go on a path leading to nowhere leading to countless pages of dross as you continue to be so abusive"?
Put up or shut up, as the saying goes.
I don't need to prove nor claim innocence. The obligation is always on the accuser to prove the guilt.
And you, johnny2007, motorbiking, fillyboy, et al can't because there isn't any evidence, just persistent dishonest false accusations from dishonest abusive trolls.
You do yourself no favours by persisting with such dishonest abusive posts.
And on it goes leading to a path to nowhere.
Unbelievable Jeff.
Unbelievable Jeff.
Have you anything to contribute to the topic?
Or are you intent on posting useless and ridiculous comments?
It's you that's took it off topic cherub.
Only 800 to 1,000 Christians are believed to still live in Gaza, constituting the oldest Christian community in the world, dating back to the first century.
Mitri Raheb, an Evangelical Lutheran pastor and founder of Dar al-Kalima University in Bethlehem, said it was conceivable that the current conflict would spell the end of its long history in this strip of land. “This community is under threat of extinction,” Raheb told Al Jazeera. “I’m not sure if they will survive the Israeli bombing, and even if they survive, I think many of them will want to emigrate.”
“We know that within this generation, Christianity will cease to exist in Gaza,” he added.
Estimates have indicated that the number of Christians in Gaza dropped in recent years from the 3,000 registered in 2007, when Hamas assumed complete control of the strip, triggering Israel’s blockade and accelerating the departure of Christians from the poverty-stricken enclave.
In the West Bank, Christians are on a stronger footing with more than 47,000 people living there, according to a 2017 census. But violence and persecution have unsettled the community there too. “Attacks on clergy and churches had quadrupled this year compared to last year,” Raheb, whose academic institution documents such events, said.
On January 1, days after Israel swore in the most far-right government in the country’s history, two unidentified men broke into Jerusalem’s Protestant Mount Zion Cemetery and desecrated more than 30 graves, pushing over cross-shaped tombstones and smashing them with rocks.
On January 26, a mob of Israeli settlers attacked an Armenian bar in the Christian quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem, shouting “Death to Arabs … Death to Christians.”
A couple of days later, Armenians leaving a memorial service in the Armenian Quarter were attacked by Israeli settlers carrying sticks. An Armenian was pepper-sprayed as settlers scaled the walls of the Armenian convent, trying to take down its flag, which had a cross on it.
The attacks have continued to escalate, in tandem with Israeli attempts to “silence any voices coming from Palestinians inside Israel”, Raheb said.
“They are Jewish terrorist settlers, but the international community doesn’t recognise them as such because it is part of the same colonial [mindset],” he said, adding that he worried the constant threat of violence would eventually drive out Christianity from the Holy Land.
At least 10,569 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza since October 7.
Al Jazeera.com
Mitri Raheb, an Evangelical Lutheran pastor and founder of Dar al-Kalima University in Bethlehem, said it was conceivable that the current conflict would spell the end of its long history in this strip of land. “This community is under threat of extinction,” Raheb told Al Jazeera. “I’m not sure if they will survive the Israeli bombing, and even if they survive, I think many of them will want to emigrate.”
“We know that within this generation, Christianity will cease to exist in Gaza,” he added.
Estimates have indicated that the number of Christians in Gaza dropped in recent years from the 3,000 registered in 2007, when Hamas assumed complete control of the strip, triggering Israel’s blockade and accelerating the departure of Christians from the poverty-stricken enclave.
In the West Bank, Christians are on a stronger footing with more than 47,000 people living there, according to a 2017 census. But violence and persecution have unsettled the community there too. “Attacks on clergy and churches had quadrupled this year compared to last year,” Raheb, whose academic institution documents such events, said.
On January 1, days after Israel swore in the most far-right government in the country’s history, two unidentified men broke into Jerusalem’s Protestant Mount Zion Cemetery and desecrated more than 30 graves, pushing over cross-shaped tombstones and smashing them with rocks.
On January 26, a mob of Israeli settlers attacked an Armenian bar in the Christian quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem, shouting “Death to Arabs … Death to Christians.”
A couple of days later, Armenians leaving a memorial service in the Armenian Quarter were attacked by Israeli settlers carrying sticks. An Armenian was pepper-sprayed as settlers scaled the walls of the Armenian convent, trying to take down its flag, which had a cross on it.
The attacks have continued to escalate, in tandem with Israeli attempts to “silence any voices coming from Palestinians inside Israel”, Raheb said.
“They are Jewish terrorist settlers, but the international community doesn’t recognise them as such because it is part of the same colonial [mindset],” he said, adding that he worried the constant threat of violence would eventually drive out Christianity from the Holy Land.
At least 10,569 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza since October 7.
Al Jazeera.com
I took a girl to the Old City for 3 or 4 days in 76, we stayed in a hostel where there were about 30 beds in a room, the room was mixed and we managed to get adjoining beds. We spent every day just walking around the City soaking it up, would have needed a month really to even scratch the surface. Despite my best efforts I can't remember the name of the place, it wasn't far from Jaffa Gate and looking at a map now, I'm guessing it was in the Christian Quarter, but it is a guess. I got quite chummy with the owner, he taught me to play backgammon, we spent several evenings playing backgammon in the street. It's all very hazy now, misted in the fog of time.
I remember the girl attempting to buy a piece a piece of silver plated jewellery and she ended the bartering process by just walking away, the arab shopkeeper wouldn't let it rest there, he followed us down the street accusing her of being a Scottish Jew, that tickled me as she was a catholic from Bournemouth.
Another day we were walking and heard my name being called loudly, it turned out to be two Swedish girls who were staying on the same Kibbutz, they both had blonde hair and had attracted a group of about 30 young arabs, taking turns to run up and touch them and run their hands through their hair, so me and the dark haired 'scottish jew' got between them, slapping their hands every time they tried to stroke the blonde beauties.
We ended up spending the last day showing the two Swedes around and acting as their personal protection.
We got chatting to a Danish bloke at the hostel, he'd spent three days exploring the sewage system, he offered to take us underground for a tour but the 'Scottish Jew' was a bit reluctant.
Visited the Dome of the Rock and the Wailing Wall etc., I'd like to go back but even if I did get back to Israel, I think I'd find the Old City a bit daunting, maybe just a day trip.
About a year ago, the 'Scottish Jew' became a friend on Facebook, lives in Australia now.
USA are extremely active in dissuading an enflaming of the region.
Reminds me of a time travelling in Asia. A fellow traveller and his son was with us. His son was about 10 years old, with blond hair. Whenever we stopped anywhere, girls and women would run up to him to touch his hair, and run their fingers through it.
We, and he thought it was humurous. Perhaps you misinterpreted their intention.
It happens often.
Nosey would be worshipped with his nose.
We thought it was humorous, we thought it was simply because they were different and not something the locals were used to seeing, I wasn't concerned about their intentions, harmless or otherwise.
My reason for intervening was simply because two pretty young girls were crying and afraid, so I helped them.
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