Pillar / column for stairs

[Jake2021]

Hi,
I wanting to remove a wall next to my stairs however the wall I want to remove supports a cross joist supporting the floor in the bedroom cupboard,

I can’t put a catnic all the way across as the front door lintel is in the way so the only way I can see how to do this would a a verticals post next to my stairs .

The wall I want to remove is single brick upto the ceiling then stid( Barton and plaster ) all the way to the the upstairs ceiling so even though it’s not a lot of weight I will need some sort of horizontal joist / catnic to support the stud wall

Would something like this work and anyone got a suggestions of what I should use?
Thanks
Jake

 

[Deleted member 174758]

You can certainly support a joist end or trimmer on a vertical column (steel, timber, brick or concrete) providing the floor below will take the weight, which may require a concrete footing to be cast or extra trimmers/sister joists to be installed (for a suspended wooden floor). I think you'll need to strip the structure a bit to see what you are dealing with and I'd seriously advise asking a structural engineer for recommendations

 

[Jake2021]

hi job
Thanks for the reply.

I’m fairly happy with the floor taking the weight as it’s concrete

Think you’re right re the structural engineer … it’s gonna have to go through building regs anyway as it’s the stairs that the wall is being removed.

I was more wondering what would be my best option for a pillar… brick, steel wood but I guess the se will advise on that
Thanks
Jake

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Smallest and least complicated is probably a fabricated steel column with an all round flange at the bottom (for rag bolts or resin anchors into the concrete) and a bracketed connection to the timber at the top. With this you might be able to get away with just painting it, or it could be boxed (timber frame and PB or MDF to clad)

Masonry is going to be physically a lot larger while reinforced concrete requires a lot more work to be done, so probably never going to be a DIY job (I imagine the weight alone means this would need to be cast in situ after tying in to the rebar in the floor - no idea what they would do if there is no rebar in the floor.

They might be OK with timber, but it would need to be connected to the floor at the bottom and the timber at the top through something like angle plates

 

[Jake2021]

Hi thanks for that job , I think timber would be my first preference. I’ve managed to have a look at the joists… my pre school drawing is where the joists and and the trimmer is … it would be great if I could bolt a pillar to where the joist meets the trimmer !
Thanks
Jake

 

[Jake2021]

Maybe a better view or not lol