I need a plug socket in an understairs cupboard, where at present there is just a wall light. I don't need the wall light, is it possible to just wire a plug socket in instead? I realise that this would then be on the lighting rather than the plug circuit, is that necessarily a problem? Thanks in advance
Plug socket on light circuit?
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Some electriicians might put me right on this, but I think it is OK for 3A only, as long as you have a 3A FCU before the socket. Problem is that things with plugs on can be much higher current than anything your lighting circuit can provide, and you won't always be around when people are plugging something into it.
Depends on if the Luxembourgian (?) regs have anything against it too.....
Depends on if the Luxembourgian (?) regs have anything against it too.....
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well you could but it wouldnt last long, the heating element typicaly draws 10A.
theres no explicit requirements as to what sockets can be put on a lighting cuircuit.
the diversity guidenlines say you should allow at least half a sockets rating for a socket on a lighting cuircuit but it must be remembered that diversity guidelines are just that.
personally i have a couple of 13A sockets in my bedroom on the lighting cuircuit and i don't see it as a problem, they aren't in a place where they are likely to get casually used. They are just below ceiling height and require a stepladder to access one is used for a red light pointing upwards clipped to my bookshelves the other is currently unused it was used for a lava lamp but the water/wax tube doesn't work very well any more and i don't think i'm going to bother replacing the blown bulb in it now. maybe i'll put some other lamp in that location later.
the diversity guidenlines say you should allow at least half a sockets rating for a socket on a lighting cuircuit but it must be remembered that diversity guidelines are just that.
personally i have a couple of 13A sockets in my bedroom on the lighting cuircuit and i don't see it as a problem, they aren't in a place where they are likely to get casually used. They are just below ceiling height and require a stepladder to access one is used for a red light pointing upwards clipped to my bookshelves the other is currently unused it was used for a lava lamp but the water/wax tube doesn't work very well any more and i don't think i'm going to bother replacing the blown bulb in it now. maybe i'll put some other lamp in that location later.
Do you get FCUs in Luxembourg?johnny_t said:
Do you know what size cable is used for lighting circuits in Luxembourg?
Do you know what rating the breakers are on lighting circuits in Luxembourg?
Do you even know if they have dedicated lighting circuits in Luxembourg?
Do you know if FCUs, and 13A fuses are available in Luxembourg?nstreet said:
Do you know if round pin "lighting" sockets are used in Luxembourg?
Do you know what size cable is used for lighting circuits in Luxembourg?Spark123 said:NO NO NO NO NO
You can't run a washing machine from a lighting circuit.
Do you know what rating the breakers are on lighting circuits in Luxembourg?
Do you even know if they have dedicated lighting circuits in Luxembourg?
Do you know if it is either in Luxembourg?johnny_t said:
Do you know if there are or are not any requirements in the regulations that apply in Luxembourg?plugwash said:
Do you know if these diversity guidelines are accepted in Luxembourg?
Because my questions are all hypothetical, in fact you are helping me with my physics GCSE assignments...
Not really. Actually the reason I post on the UK site is that none of my questions relate specifically to the Luxembourgish system, rather they are more general questions. I'm not so much interested in what the Luxembourg regulations are, rather in whether I am likely to burn my house down or electrocute myself.
And I appreciate all the help I get from this forum...thanks!
Not really. Actually the reason I post on the UK site is that none of my questions relate specifically to the Luxembourgish system, rather they are more general questions. I'm not so much interested in what the Luxembourg regulations are, rather in whether I am likely to burn my house down or electrocute myself.
And I appreciate all the help I get from this forum...thanks!
you have to be very carefull with mixing different countries methods. while the laws of physics don't vary between countries things like standard cable types installation methods color codes accessory design etc do. what may well be a safe assumption to make when helping someone with a uk system may not be safe on a foriegn system.
btw in the uk i belive BC lampholders are allowed to be on a 16A cuircuit so you could have a cuircuit that could power a washer and a light and be withing the rules without any extra fusing for the light but it would not be a normal lighting cuircuit.
btw in the uk i belive BC lampholders are allowed to be on a 16A cuircuit so you could have a cuircuit that could power a washer and a light and be withing the rules without any extra fusing for the light but it would not be a normal lighting cuircuit.
Unless you've personally rewired your Luxembourg property to UK customs, in which case you would know the answer to the question you're asking, then regulations be b****red - the "Luxembourgish system" is utterly relevant.roger3007 said:
If Luxembourg follows the common European method of wiring, then all of the "advice" you've been given above is complete bo****ks, I'm afraid.
Pick up the Luxembourg Säiten Giel, and phone an elektriker.
Not being funny, but the nonsense above shows how you cannot seek advice on practical wiring matters from people who do not understand the way your country's wiring systems hang together.
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I'm sure you can work that out once the laughter has subsided....ninebob said:ban-all-sheds said:
What'ya trying to say, ban?