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Mottie

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Whoda thunk they were propping up nightclubs? No wonder they leave with a useless degree and a lifetime of debt. First lesson these academics should have is money management.

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Pryzm nightclub boss blames lack of students for closures

Peter Marks, who runs the UK's biggest club chain, says students are going out later and spending less.
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Did they cause the recession that's just been announced, or maybe anticipate it.
 
Mottie said:
Whoda thunk they were propping up nightclubs? No wonder they leave with a useless degree and a lifetime of debt. First lesson these academics should have is money management.

www.bbc.co.uk

Pryzm nightclub boss blames lack of students for closures

Peter Marks, who runs the UK's biggest club chain, says students are going out later and spending less.
www.bbc.co.uk
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The reason students end up with a lifetime of debt is the obscene profit before people business model...

More civilised countries manage to charge zero or very little to study. Because they value people over profit in their education systems!
UK students used to have the opportunity to study aboard for those rates, but it is now effectively impossible...

As for a 'useless' degree, what might appear that way to you may be valued by others.

And many jobs that didn't in the past require a degree now do, as that feeds the business model !

Kids nowadays don't have much chance when they start out, let alone dream of getting a home of their own.
And as more and more is taken from them there is less to spend in the economy as you have pointed out...

Which often leads to a recession...

Oh look, the UK is now in recession :rolleyes:
 
We need to fund degrees for professions we need, eg. doctors, dentists, vets, engineers, teachers - and let those doing Mickey Mouse courses pay their own way. Not rocket science.
 
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The reason students end up with a lifetime of debt is the obscene profit before people business model...
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No, it’s because they are permanently partying. After a 'gap' year (gap from what?) they then go on to a masters or whatever to put off work for another few years. We have one in our family. No intention of working whatsoever and has no idea what he would like to do if he did. 23 years old and never even had so much as a paper round. Typical, let’s not pretend otherwise.
 
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What have you got against rocket scientists? ;)
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Nothing, they're a blast. (y)

My barber's son works for BAE systems in France as a scientist in missile development. When he talks to me about him when I'm having my mullet trimmed, I usually say "well, it's not rocket science, is it?" "Hang on a minute, actually.............."
 
Mottie said:
No, it’s because they are permanently partying. After a 'gap' year (gap from what?) they then go on to a masters or whatever to put off work for another few years. We have one in our family. No intention of working whatsoever and has no idea what he would like to do if he did. 23 years old and never even had so much as a paper round. Typical, let’s not pretend otherwise.
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I don't know whether you really believe this or this is just a bit of fun. That's certainly not the experience in our family. Anyway, the latest figures, for those graduating in 2021, show:

15 months after they graduated.

Overall employment and unemployment​

82% of graduates were in employment or unpaid work, the majority of which (61%) were in full time employment, an increase of four percentage points compared to 2019–20. 10% were in part-time employment, or a combination of employment and further study.
The proportion of graduates unemployed (5%) was one percentage point lower than in 2019–20 and two percentage points lower than in 2018–19.

High skilled employment​

78% of graduates from higher education providers were employed in high-skilled jobs, an increase of one percentage point compared to 2019–20. This was 74% for non-science subjects and 84% for science subjects.
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Mottie said:
No, it’s because they are permanently partying. After a 'gap' year (gap from what?) they then go on to a masters or whatever to put off work for another few years. We have one in our family. No intention of working whatsoever and has no idea what he would like to do if he did. 23 years old and never even had so much as a paper round. Typical, let’s not pretend otherwise.
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Someone is still smarting from all those years ago when he admitted himself that he was 'too thick' to go to uni ;)

That also shows in your comments about the 'one in your family' :rolleyes:

Sure you may have done ok without, but going to university is more than just the piece of paper you get at the end...

And as for a 'gap year', most use it for travel...

It helps them understand that people are people wherever they live, and many who do travel avoid becoming insular in their views!
 
ellal said:
It helps them understand that people are people wherever they live, and many who do travel avoid becoming insular in their views!
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Didn't help you with your understanding of Northeners, Brexiters, Jews, people from Essex, the old and your father, did it? You hate them all.

ellal said:
Someone is still smarting from all those years ago when he admitted himself that he was 'too thick' to go to uni
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And someone wasn't at school the day they explained the meaning of 'sarcasm'.
 
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Mottie said:
Whoda thunk they were propping up nightclubs? No wonder they leave with a useless degree and a lifetime of debt. First lesson these academics should have is money management.

www.bbc.co.uk

Pryzm nightclub boss blames lack of students for closures

Peter Marks, who runs the UK's biggest club chain, says students are going out later and spending less.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Imagine the days, when the likes of Mottie had the single market, cheap houses and zero tuition fees.
Bloody young people nowadays. Who would have thunk.

Selfish gammons don't care. (n)
 
Mottie said:
Whoda thunk they were propping up nightclubs? No wonder they leave with a useless degree and a lifetime of debt. First lesson these academics should have is money management.

www.bbc.co.uk

Pryzm nightclub boss blames lack of students for closures

Peter Marks, who runs the UK's biggest club chain, says students are going out later and spending less.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Not sure if you fully understand university and education.

It's not purely lectures and lessons. It's about networking, communication and life too.

Think our best students should be virtually imprisoned until they get their results.?
 
Our No.1 son worked very hard at Uni and got a whole bunch of Firsts giving him an overall First.

He's now doing a 2 year post-grad stint at a firm of Financial Advisors learning the ropes towards being an IFA.

He had his fair share of fun but also worked bl00dy hard.
 
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