Privacy and indoor cameras?

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Hi all

Just wanted some advice please?
I thought it would be a good idea to put up Ring security cameras in the living room, kitchen and my wife's work from home area.
My wife said no so ofcourse they won't now be going up.
We were going to get some to keep an eye on the house when out and we are trying to figure out Entry try points for some roden issues we have been having.

However after we chatted futher we were both worried it's an invasion of privacy for our inside as does it always record in the cloud or something.
Out of interest (even though we WILL not be getting them as wife says no and I dont want them now either anyway) but isn't it a invasion of privacy and don't loads of people have them? But why? Dont they know they have big brother potential surveillance inside the privacy of their own home.?
 
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Schedule recording for when rooms are not occupied and may be able to do same for live view.
 
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Your wife said no, end of.
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Ofcourse it's end of, if either of us said no they aren't going up.

Just out of interest (even though we WILL not be getting them) but isn't it a invasion of privacy and don't loads of people have them? But why? Dont they know they have big brother potential surveillance inside the privacy of their own home.?
Does anyone else have them here and for what reasons?
 
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blackcloud said:
Does anyone else have them here and for what reasons?
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We put one in the MiL's lounge to keep an eye in her as her dementia worsened. She's in a care home now but it came in handy when she invited a doorstop chugger in and phoned us up to ask her bank account number so she could fill the form in. We asked to speak to the chugger and told her to leave the house now. She said she would but when we checked on the camera a few minutes later she was still there so we phoned up and told her to fùck off and fùck off right now otherwise we would get her neighbour to chuck her out. The cheeky cow had the nerve to say "Have a nice day" before she left.

Putting them in your lounge, kitchen and wife’s work from home area is a big no no in my book.
 
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You can put covers over lenses during the day where you don’t need to monitor the room. As an easy control although some cameras we warn you they are covered up.

Intruders on the premises it can be useful for as the police have evidence they were in the premises.

Dementia is probably more common than security for having cameras in doors.

Loads of people have ech shows and similar and you can call in and view on them, people use for Pets.

Privacy invasion, depends on cameras useage and placement, a hotelier got done for hidden cameras in their bedrooms…… that’s a serious breach of privacy. In your own home in communal areas not convinced. It’s a major invasion of one’s privacy as long as access is strictly controlled.
 
blackcloud said:
Ofcourse it's end of, if either of us said no they aren't going up.

Just out of interest (even though we WILL not be getting them) but isn't it a invasion of privacy and don't loads of people have them? But why? Dont they know they have big brother potential surveillance inside the privacy of their own home.?
Does anyone else have them here and for what reasons?
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Invasion of privacy is more to do with capturing images of the public, especially in areas where they wouldn't be expected to be filmed/recorded or it's not made obvious that they are.

When it comes to inside a private domestic dwelling I'm not sure of any rules. Anything covert in a domestic may fall into invasion of privacy as stated above, it's not obvious people are being filmed. But then it's not a public place, so not sure.

All the ICO seem to be bothered about is that CCTV is justified and proportionate for the use case specified. Audio is a big no unless it's absolutely required, and even then it has to be reviewed regularly. But again this is all for filming in public places.
 
One security consideration would be whether the camera records to a cloud server, which could be subject to hacking/monitoring.
Ours records to a well hidden local NVR, which we can access remotely (and copy remotely) through suitable security measures.
 
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