Replacing downlights, part or whole?

[robodelfy]

Hi

I have 12 downlights in my kitchen and 3 in my bathroom, as pictured. Is it standard just to replace the whole thing, or can you just replace the rusty/dirty/painted bevel?

Also, any reason you'd choose fixed ones over tilting ones?

The kitchen ones have a 72mm cutout which seems standard. The bathroom has 82mm which I can't find so easily.

Finally, should the bathroom ones be a special kind as its a damp environment?

Thanks

 

[winston1]

Don't think you can get bevels separately. You can clean the existing ones though, bit of paint stripper followed by metal polish.

Fixed ones are probably cheaper if you don't need them to tilt. Also are more draft proof.

Lamps over a bath or shower need to be a special type. Others in the room depend on ceiling height, what is above etc.

Note that bit of unenclosed choc strip is not allowed above the ceiling. Also where are the earth wires? Even if the lamp does not need it the earth wires should be taken there as any replacement may need earthing.

 

[AndyPRK]

If you are going for LEDs (which you should) you need to consider whether you want a built in LED or a replaceable lamp like you have now.

Obviously it a right pain if you change and try and match if the integrated LED fails.

I have a question for others, I'm trying to refit one. I removed it months ago. How should those spring clips be, when you try to refit them to the ceiling?

 

[EFLImpudence]

How should those spring clips be, when you try to refit them to the ceiling?

As they are.

Put the long springs through the hole then when you get to the short bits it pulls down the long bit.

Not good for plasterboard but then, they're downlights.

 

[robodelfy]

Don't think you can get bevels separately. You can clean the existing ones though, bit of paint stripper followed by metal polish.

Fixed ones are probably cheaper if you don't need them to tilt. Also are more draft proof.

Lamps over a bath or shower need to be a special type. Others in the room depend on ceiling height, what is above etc.

Note that bit of unenclosed choc strip is not allowed above the ceiling. Also where are the earth wires? Even if the lamp does not need it the earth wires should be taken there as any replacement may need earthing.

Thanks. Many of them are rusty, so I'm guessing I can't do anything about that but get news ones. I'll probably go with fixed ones then
I dont know where the earth wire is, this was done a long time ago

 

[333rocky333]

fixed ones usually fit smaller holes, you may need tilt or swivel ones so as to fill your existing hole