Shamima Begum Loses Latest Citizenship Appeal

carmanmemoranda said:
She has been westernised for her appeals too. Could also be called grooming.

Look at the images of her when she left, and now.
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She is British, she was always westernised.

She was a child and she was groomed. The punishment she has been given is vastly excessive.

But the recent verdict is probably right. The decision might be harsh but that doesn't mean unlawful.
 
Mottie said:
If they are supporting some primitive savages that think nothing of cutting the heads off of British aid workers, definitely.
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So you don't object to supporting foreign conflicts.
 
Mottie said:
I think the 'uman rights lawyers have had the max out of her. Nothing more left for them to earn - they've rinsed that money pot so hopefully the flies will now leave the sh1t and this will be the last we hear of her.
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Like Brits fighting in UKR, you mean?
 
Notch7 said:
she was groomed
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She knew full well what she was doing. I wouldn't be surprised if she was helped by her parents. How many strict Muslim teenagers can get the dosh to fly out there, let alone passport? Let that be a warning for others. Had she succeeded and become a model western supporter for ISIS, how many others do you think would have followed her out there? She's lucky she's still got a head attached to her body.
 
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Mottie said:
She knew full well what she was doing. I wouldn't be surprised if she was helped by her parents. How many strict Muslim teenagers can get the dosh to fly out there, let alone passport? Let that be a warning for others. Had she succeeded and become a model western supporter for ISIS, how many others do you think would have followed her out there? She's lucky she's still alive.
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Her parents reported it to the police to try to get help stopping her, they did nothing after one of her friends did the same thing a month earlier. Her travel was arranged by an ISIS recruiter.

If you don't know the basics of the case then your opinion is pretty worthless.
 
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Bod ... said:
Are the Ukrainian army chopping heads off and raping Women?
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In all armed conflicts, there are pretty sure to be deaths.

Should people who support or take part in foreign conflicts lose their citizenship?

Is it different if they have, or are eligible for, citizenship of another country?
 
JohnD said:
In all armed conflicts, there are pretty sure to be deaths.

Should people who support or take part in foreign conflicts lose their citizenship?

Is it different if they have, or are eligible for, citizenship of another country?
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Is it not treason fighting with or supporting the enemy?
 
Bod ... said:
Is it not treason fighting with or supporting the enemy?
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Had UK declared war on either or both the parties to the conflict?

Does that make a difference?

Are you under the impression that people found guilty of treason lose their citizenship?

Has anyone been found guilty of treason in this case?

If no, then your point is an irrelevance.
 
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