The Budget 2024.

Shadow money lady didn't have too hard a ride against BBC's Laura. Just factors we know about anyway.

Tory health lady more interesting. They have been eating away at the NHS capital budget, This covers new gear and repairs. Repairs are now £11b behind. Asked if the decision to do this was correct. She just couldn't answer.

Also the £b to be spent to improve NHS productivity. Nice buzz word now that lots are aware that productivity is a rather important aspect. Solution IT and AI. Current IT. Breaks down so they switch to paper. Working again, shove all of the paper stuff in. Takes days to get the IT support in to fix it. Why does it break?
 
Oh, you used to be able to go to the doctors, dentists and vets whatever time you chose before Brexit did you? Pull the other one!
To be fair, I found it easy to get an appointment at my GP before COVID.

But now, you have to jump through hoops to get one.
 
To be fair, I found it easy to get an appointment at my GP before COVID.

But now, you have to jump through hoops to get one.

our Drs surgery used to have an online booking system, where you could book appointments to see a GP or book blood test.

That system is still there but no appointments are ever available.

Now we have to phone at 8.00am along with every other person and try and get through.

The surgery is quite close so for something urgent, we’ve ended up having to walk in and pressure the receptionist.


To be fair to the surgery, we’ve got some excellent Drs who once you get to see them they are very helpful.
 
GP's have stuck their foot down. Not the first time but far more noticeable. Another I remember was when everyone had to have a sick note. They just refused to go along with it.

This time it relates to sufficient time with patients. A realistic time.
 
I get tired of saying this but when I went to work in RSA in the eighties there were certain conditions that had to be met. Firstly, firms could only employ foreigners if they couldn’t find a suitable employee from the indigenous population. The foreigner (me) had to have a job offer, accommodation, a clean bill of health and medical insurance before being given a work permit. All of that was arranged and paid for by the company I went to work for. I saw nothing wrong with that then. I still see nothing wrong with that now and it should apply to people wanting to work in this country as well as those in this country wishing to work abroad. Do you agree with that?
I see that @noseall is taking a leaf out of JohnD and notch's playbook when it comes to choosing which questions to answer and which to avoid/ignore. A simple yes or no would suffice.
 
I see that @noseall is taking a leaf out of JohnD and notch's playbook when it comes to choosing which questions to answer and which to avoid/ignore. A simple yes or no would suffice.
No.

The UK relies on seasonal workers, low skilled workers, doctors nurses, and a flexible immigration strategy - always has since Enoch was a lad. The arrangement with the EU gave us that. Now all we have is a lot of boat people arriving that are not allowed to work.
 
No.

The UK relies on seasonal workers, low skilled workers, doctors nurses, and a flexible immigration strategy - always has since Enoch was a lad. The arrangement with the EU gave us that. Now all we have is a lot of boat people arriving that are not allowed to work.
That applies to just about every other country in the developed world too. What’s wrong with them applying to become a seasonal worker if there’s a need for them? Do you think though, that they should come with a clean bill of health, a place to live and health insurance for the duration too?
 
That applies to just about every other country in the developed world too.
Not especially. Some countries have a glut of available labour to carry out low skilled jobs, others don't.

What’s wrong with them applying to become a seasonal worker if there’s a need for them?
Didn't the Tories change the rules to encourage only skilled or semi skilled workers to apply?


What are the five changes?​

  • Social care workers will not be allowed to bring dependants (that is, partners and children) on their visa.
  • The minimum salary to be sponsored for a Skilled Worker visa will increase, with the baseline minimum rising from £26,200 to £38,700 (but not for the Health and Care Worker visa, which includes social care, or for education workers on national pay scales).
  • Changes to the shortage occupation list to reduce the number of jobs where it will be possible to sponsor someone for a Skilled Worker visa on less than the usual minimum salary (which is the main purpose of the list).
  • The minimum income normally required to sponsor someone for a spouse/partner visa will rise in stages from £18,600 per year to £29,000 and ultimately around £38,700.
  • A review of the Graduate visa, a two-year unsponsored work permit for overseas graduates of British universities.
 
What’s wrong with them applying to become a seasonal worker if there’s a need for them?

Weren't "cutting red tape and bureaucracy", and the ability to "react quickly and flexibly" two of the non-xenophobic reasons given for Bregshit?
 
Weren't "cutting red tape and bureaucracy", and the ability to "react quickly and flexibly" two of the non-xenophobic reasons given for Bregshit?
So make applying for a seasonal temporary work permit quick and easy. Can’t be hard. Farmer Giles says he needs a temporary worker, he gets in contact with Victor in the EU, pays for his health check, takes out some health insurance for him, flies him over, puts him up, pays him a pittance to dig his carrots up, pnce they are harvested it, he pays for him to go home. Seems pretty quick and easy to me. It wasn’t that hard for a South African employer to do that for me in 1981. I got the job mid December and flew out on Jan 5th. Must be a lot easier for a Brit to do that for an EU employee 40 years later.
 
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