We are talking about Hamas not Israel
designating Hamas as a terrorist group is contingent on the actions of Hamas, not by comparison with Israel
We can have a separate discussion about whether Israel is a terrorist state or not
The Timing and Excuse for War
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designating Hamas as a terrorist group is contingent on the actions of Hamas, not by comparison with Israel
We can have a separate discussion about whether Israel is a terrorist state or not
You haven’t given an answer to the exact question that determines whether Hamas are terrorists or not.
its a very straightforward question:
Does Hamas commit acts of terror?
come on stop making excuses and answer the key question
I am asking the key question which determines whether Hamas are a terrorist group or not.
and you keep avoiding giving an answer…because proves you wrong
Coke on, grow a spine and answer
The conflict between Israel and Palestinians did not begin on 7th October. You have to see the bigger and longer historical picture, in totality.
The incursion of Israel by Hamas did not occur in a vacuum.
You want to designate one group as terrorist without designating their opposition, as terrorists, who have acted in similar ways for decades longer than Hamas.
We can't have a separate discssion about either group without considering the whole picture.
It would be like discussing the reasons for crime and suggesting that poverty is not allowed in the discussion.
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It is straightforward from your perspective and mine. It's those perspectives that cause the difference in the answers.
You don't like my answer, I get that. You are allowed your version. But for some ridiculous ideological reason, you think I'm not allowed a different opinion to you.
Same old question over and over again, in the hope that the answer will change.
yes we can
What you saying is: “you can’t call somebody a murderer if other people have committed murder”
And I've answered your question several times.
Same old question over and over again, in the hope that the answer will change.
I've given you an answer time nad time again.
You don't like my answer.
I've demonstrated how the label of 'Terrorist' is a political ploy.
Another example:
Are the Wagner group a terrorist organisation in Russia?
Are they a terrorist organisation in UK.
The amswer proves that the labelling of terrorist is a political ploy.
Are you learning gantish?
What does 'coke on' mean?
For the umpteenth time I have answered, but you just don't like my answer.
And because you don't like my answer, you think I need to grow a spine.
That's as nonsensical as calling anyone who disagrees with you, as racist.
Your logic is obviously faulty.
That might explain you voting for Brexit, and defending racism.
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That's not a comparable example. Unlawful killing is an internationally and humane agreed crimeyes we can
What you saying is: “you can’t call somebody a murderer if other people have committed murder”
Terrorism is not in the same category. terrorism is a politically motivated label.
If it were not so there would be an internationally agreed list of terorist organisations.
I've already listed two such organisations listed as terrorist by UK, but not by others, even so called allies of UK: IRA and Wagner Group.
The World Uyghur Congress group are another example. designated as terrorist in China, but not in UK.
UK would give asylum to Uyghurs.
Yet more proof that the labelling of terrorist is a politcal ploy.
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Please can you provide a definition of terrorism.
And then please provide a description of the actions Hamas commit.
They are the same: because Hamas are terrorists.
If you don't agree then you are a terrorist apologist.
Sure, here's the Chinese one:
How China Defines Terrorism
In a new draft law, China has opted for its own definition.
thediplomat.com
Why wouldn't you accept that one? because it's not the one that a) fits your narrative, and b) not the one that fits Israel's, USA's nor UK's narrative.
Which yet again proves the politcal nature of such terms.
Sure, when and if you provide a description of Israel's actions against the Palestinians over the last 60 years.
Then we can compare the actions of the "terrorists".
In your opinion, in the opinion of Israel, USA and UK, and other western nations.
I'll say it again for the umpteenth time UN do not designate Hamas as terrorists.
There you go again, anyone who disagrees with you are racists, anti-Semites or terrorist sympathisers.
UN do not agree with you. Are they terrorist sympathisers?
Your logic is blind to anything but your opinion., and everyone is else wrong.
Let me also remind you of Barack Obama's opinion. Paraphrased to save me looking it up:
"It's possible to support Palestinians, and criticise Israel without being anti-Semitic."
Here's another example of politically designated terrorists:
The Rohingya are designated as terrorists in Myamar, but they would be given asylum in UK.
Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army - Wikipedia
Yet again reinforcing the political nature of labelling terrorists.
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Was does he say about people glorifying terrorism and saying that the Jews had it coming?
Are you lining yourself up for yet more dishonest accusations?
I keep asking you to present the evidence of your dishonest accusations, but you never have and never even tried.
Oh, yeah, the dog ate your homework.
There's another angle to the politicisation of the label terrorist.
It is and was illegal for anyone to go and join ISIS.
It was later declared illegal to go and fight in the Ukraine - Russia war.
It hasn't been declared illegal to go and fight for Israel.
All depends on your politics.
petition.parliament.uk
Explains the motivation behind designating Hamas as terrorists.
It is and was illegal for anyone to go and join ISIS.
It was later declared illegal to go and fight in the Ukraine - Russia war.
It hasn't been declared illegal to go and fight for Israel.
All depends on your politics.
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British citizen are going Israel to fight in the IDF(Israeli defence force) on occupied territories. Anybody who has broken the fourth protocol of the Geneva Convention deserves to face justice in court for their crimes. It is also a crime under British law for a British nationals to serve in a...
petition.parliament.uk
Explains the motivation behind designating Hamas as terrorists.
104 posts on a Blooming conspiracy, you couldn't make it up.
Thank you for finally agreeing with me that Hamas, by definition are terrorists
we got there eventually, see it wasn’t that painful
I have quoted your definition and put in bold the part which is exactly what Hamas do
Himmie finally admits Hamas are terrorists
“According to Article 104 of the draft law, “terrorism” means “any thought, speech, or activity that, by means of violence, sabotage, or threat, aims to generate social panic, influence national policy-making, create ethnic hatred, subvert state power, or split the state”