Trump encourages Putin to attack NATO...

Trump also says future aid to countries like Ukraine and Israel should be in the form of loans and not grants.
This may help to root out corruption in countries like Ukraine.
 
You make it sound like they've bought some guns and germany is refusing to pay. Trumpf is a bigger risk than pootin because he encourages him.
Trump is a risk, more so only if Putin becomes more of a risk
 
Trump also says future aid to countries like Ukraine and Israel should be in the form of loans and not grants.
This may help to root out corruption in countries like Ukraine.


Trump does worry me but I can see his logic.

I wonder how he would deal with our NHS!
 
Trump can't unilaterally withdraw.

Article VI of the Constitution in short... "this article declares that the Constitution and the laws and treaties of the federal government are the highest in the land.

Nato membership is a treaty.
Trump could withold money to Nato which could be almost as damaging.
 
Trump also says future aid to countries like Ukraine and Israel should be in the form of loans and not grants.
I agree, countries should pay their way

lets start by stopping subsidies to Northern Ireland, if England give them money it should be in the form of loans
 
more Putin propaganda
How is it propaganda?
With all this free money, there is no incentive to root out corruption.
Afterall, the Yanks will just send more.

If the Ukranian government has to pay all this cash back at some point, they may get serious about tackling the problem.

They could start by classifying theft of government funds as treason which could carry the death penalty.

Ukranian soldiers on the front line are dying because of ammunition shortages.
Money sent by donar countries to buy ammunition is being stolen left right and centre.

Tip of the iceberg.

 
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I agree, countries should pay their way

lets start by stopping subsidies to Northern Ireland, if England give them money it should be in the form of loans
What about Scotland, Wales and the North of England.
While we are at it, what about all these freeloaders on the NHS who get treated for free.
 
How is it propaganda?
With all this free money, there is no incentive to root out corruption.
Afterall, the Yanks will just send more.

If the Ukranian government has to pay all this cash back at some point, they may get serious about tackling the problem.

They could start by classifying theft of government funds as treason which could carry the death penalty.

Ukranian soldiers on the front line are dying because of ammunition shortages.
Money sent by donar countries to buy ammunition is being stolen left right and centre.

Tip of the iceberg.

Sounds like furlough and ppe procurement, unfortunately corruption everywhere.
 
They're trying. They are just building up a war chest with those missed NATO payments. Any reason you can think of why the so-called most successful European economy can’t or won’t pay their way?
But you've been telling us that their economy isn't doing well, so how can they be 'building up a war chest'?

You seem to want to have it both ways :rolleyes:
 
In the interests of balance we have some fine aircraft carriers.
Tongue in cheek of course...

Because as we know they are always breaking down and often have no aircraft or support ships...

Which means you might as well just paint a bullseye on them!
 
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