Wales becomes Trumpton

motorbiking said:
BTW RoSPA don’t support blanket 20mph limits.
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Oh dear, "RoSPA supports and encourages the wider use of 20mph limits. They have been shown to reduce traffic speed, although not as much as 20mph zones with traffic calming.".
 
motorbiking said:
Maybe you should take your own advice and follow the science

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Explains the reduction in claims too
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Oh dear, "And average traffic speed fell by only 0.2 mph 1 year, and by 0.8 ph 3 years after roll-out. "

The speed reductions are not being enforced properly, which is why they say,

"This is an observational study, and is relatively small scale, compared with other similar studies, point out the authors, who add that speed limits may not work so well in isolation.

“Previous research has suggested that 20 mph speed limit interventions should be supplemented with other interventions such as driver training, social marketing, community engagement, closed-circuit television (CCTV), in-car interventions, community interventions (eg, speed watch), and police communications,” they note.
 
denso13 said:
So far the Wales one has. For someone who says wait and see, you are doing whatever you can to show it doesn't, and won't, work.
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Because other long term studies show this..
Follow the science
 
denso13 said:
Oh dear, "And average traffic speed fell by only 0.2 mph 1 year, and by 0.8 ph 3 years after roll-out. "

The speed reductions are not being enforced properly, which is why they say,

"This is an observational study, and is relatively small scale, compared with other similar studies, point out the authors, who add that speed limits may not work so well in isolation.

“Previous research has suggested that 20 mph speed limit interventions should be supplemented with other interventions such as driver training, social marketing, community engagement, closed-circuit television (CCTV), in-car interventions, community interventions (eg, speed watch), and police communications,” they note.
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Follow the science.
 
There are 35 pages of this already. You’re welcome to submit new findings.
 
denso13 said:
Oh dear, "RoSPA supports and encourages the wider use of 20mph limits. They have been shown to reduce traffic speed, although not as much as 20mph zones with traffic calming.".
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You know the difference between a 20 zone (self enforcing) and a blanket limit. But you can pretend you don’t if you want.
 
motorbiking said:
There are 35 pages of this already. You’re welcome to submit new findings.
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I thought you said it was too early to deduce anything.

Unless it supports your closed mind.

But the figures don't support what you are trying to claim.

Keep digging, it's amusing
 
motorbiking said:
Dumb and dumber got nothing to add as usual.
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I don't know, you keep trying.

Are the figures correct, or too soon to say? Make your mind up.

Well you have made your mind up. Just don't have the facts to support it. But that's not unusual.
 
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