What does a naval blockade cost?

According to the web Palestine already has a state eg Wiki heading there are loads that say similar

Demographics of the State of Palestine​


Unfortunately it is under military occupation by the invader and has no power and is prevented by the invader from carrying out the functions of a state.

That why Palestine has roads that Israelis are allowed to walk or drive down, and Palestinians are not. Israel is an Apartheid state and imposes its Apartheid on Palestine.

Do you agree with Israel that Coriander is a weapon of war, and Israel is therefore entitled to prohibit Palestine from importing it?

Or do you agree with everybody else in the entire f*****g world that it is a harmless culinary herb, and Israel only banned it out of petty vindictive spite to demonstrate that it has the power to oppress and humiliate Palestinians that it racist hates, and nobody can stop them?

I wonder what @fillyboy @motorbiking and @Mottie pretend to believe is the truth?
 
If only we could know everything, just like you do. I'm just surprised you have not put your superior brain to work serving the good of the public, working for world peace and economic security instead of sitting at home on your own 24/7 posting your thoughts on a DIY forum. Why is that?
 
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If only we could know everything,

I'm sure even you are aware of ludicrous bans like the coriander one

And you must be aware of the racist apartheid roads.

If truly not (unlikely) then I'm glad I was able to make a small contribution to reducing your ignorance.

No need to thank me.
 
I'm sure even you are aware of ludicrous bans like the coriander one

And you must be aware of the racist apartheid roads.
I know absolutely nothing about either of those and do you know why? I’m not that ****ing interested in it, unlike you who seems to have got the bit between your teeth about it and can’t post about anything else. Reading your posts, people could get the impression that this was the only thing happening in the world. Where are your other threads about other injustices that you believe are going on in the world? Perhaps you should join a proper jew hating forum instead and be in the company of like minded people.
 
That why Palestine has roads that Israelis are allowed to walk or drive down, and Palestinians are not. Israel is an Apartheid state and imposes its Apartheid on Palestine.


I wonder what @fillyboy @motorbiking and @Mottie pretend to believe is the truth?
A common bond between Bre*iters.

Gaza has effectively been under a blockade for many years, with no control over its borders or any determination on its coastline and 'under the terms of a deal reached in the 1990s, Israel collects tax on behalf of the Palestinians and makes monthly transfers to the PA pending the approval of the Ministry of Finance.'

The system by which taxes and customs duties are collected by Israel on behalf of the PA and transferred to the authority on a monthly basis was agreed in a 1994 accord known as the Paris Protocol, the accord was meant to manage the economic relationship between Israel and the Palestinian territories it occupied until a final peace settlement was reached between the two states.

However, 30 years later, the financial settlement continues to give the Israeli state what the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) has called “a disproportionate influence on the collection of Palestinian fiscal revenue, leading to deficiencies in the structure and collection of customs duties resulting from direct and indirect importing into Palestine”.

On November 3 [2023], the Israel security cabinet voted to withhold a total of $275m in Palestinian tax revenues, including cash collected for prior months that was still with Tel Aviv. “The PA is not clear about how much of the tax revenues go to Gaza – it’s a black box,” Rabeh Morrar, director of research at the Palestine Economic Policy Research Institute-MAS, told Al Jazeera. “Sometimes they say 30 percent, sometimes 40, sometimes 50.”

“Israeli blackmailing of our tax revenues will not stop us from continuing our political and diplomatic struggle,” said Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammad Shtayyeh at the time after Israel’s security cabinet had earlier described the PA’s ICJ move as a “decision to wage political and legal war against the State of Israel”.

No Justice. No Peace@Al Jazeera

Palestine has no control over the smallest detail of their state, yet supporters of Israel persist in their delusion of the 'only democracy' in the middle-east when it's actually become a de facto fascist state in order to supress the Palestinian people. Netanyahu insists they have a state in Jordan, which only reinforces their ultra-orthodox worldview of a nation from the river to the sea.
 
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I'm sure even you are aware of ludicrous bans like the coriander one
I know absolutely nothing about either of those and do you know why? I’m not that ****ing interested in it
Well now you do.
Crikey, no coriander! How on earth do they manage?
I can just imagine you on a pro Palestinian march chanting :
"What do we want" - "CORIANDER"
"When do we want it" - "NOW"!
 
Crikey, no coriander! How on earth do they manage?
The story of this blockade has an old history. In December 2005, Israel first threatened to impose an “economic siege” on the Gaza Strip if the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, refused to disarm the militant groups. It tightened the import restrictions in 2007 when the military organisation Hamas, defeating the nationalist party Fatah, took complete control of Gaza. Declaring it “hostile territory”, Israeli authorities stated that their bans intended to pressure Hamas to stop its attacks. But then the rockets stopped; the bans did not. In fact, they only intensified—and worse, there was no official list. Imagine not knowing the fine-print of your deprivation. Imagine guessing the extent of your oppression.

So, in January 2010, an Israeli human rights group formed to support the Palestinians’ freedom of movement, Gisha, sued the Israeli authorities. “I don’t understand why cinnamon is permitted, but coriander is forbidden,” its director, Sari Bashi, told the BBC. “Is there something more dangerous about coriander? Is coriander more critical to Gaza’s economy than cinnamon?” After several months of silence, the Israeli government submitted a written response to the court, confirming four documents determining the blockade’s mechanics: how it processed requests for imports, how it monitored the shortages in Gaza, its approved list of imports, and a document called ‘Food Consumption in the Gaza Strip-Red Lines’. Even though these disclosures promised a lot, they delivered little. Because the Israeli Ministry of Defence said that it’d reveal the documents’ contents to the judge in a private session.

And what did they reveal? That, from 2007 to 2010, Israel used mathematical formulas to determine the minimum amount of goods permitted into Gaza. Such baffling calisthenics materialised via the estimate of the inventory of basic goods and products, their daily per capita consumption, and Gaza’s population. But in June 2010, the children of Gaza, for the first time in several years, could finally eat chocolates.

Amid intense international pressure, Israel had lifted the restriction on other items, too, such as soda, juice, jam, spices, cookies, candy, shaving cream, and potato chips. But what about the cement and steel needed to build wrecked homes? Still banned. “A modest expansion of the restrictive list of goods allowed into Gaza falls well short of what is needed,” said Maxwel Gaylard, United Nation’s veteran humanitarian official in Palestine. “We need a fundamental change and an opening of crossings for commercial goods.” Next month, in July 2010, Israel published a list of banned items—and lifted the restriction on most consumer goods—entering Gaza. It did state, though, that it would continue to ban items for “dual use” (say, a seemingly innocuous substance that could be used to make explosives).

“Between 2007 and 2017, the poverty rate in Gaza increased from 40% to 56%,” according to an August 2020 United Nations report, “and the poverty rate increased from 14% to 20%.” The annual minimum cost of removing poverty, it added, “quadrupled from $209 million to $838 million.” And had the pre-2007 trends continued—that is, before the blockade—Gaza’s poverty rate would have been “15% in 2017 instead of 56%”. But due to the continued bans killing industries and professions and livelihoods, “Gaza witnessed one of the worst economic performances globally and the world’s highest unemployment rate”.

No Country for Coriander@Outlook India.com

Now you know.
 
Now you know.
People could could do with knowing a good deal more, The UN officials are very clear about a number of things that have been going on for a long time. The security council don't react as vetoes get used however the occupation is illegal. Seems that got through although Blinken has argued that this should be dropped.
 
People could could do with knowing a good deal more, The UN officials are very clear about a number of things that have been going on for a long time. The security council don't react as vetoes get used however the occupation is illegal. Seems that got through although Blinken has argued that this should be dropped.
But they refuse to accept this information, look away and deny it all, just to suit their own world view. They're beyond help, really.
 
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