Would you recommend a sail shade here?

[John Peden]

We're having the garden landscaped at the moment and as it faces south west, we get a lot of sun through the kitchen/patio doors...although not when this pic was taken:

While we have internal blinds, the heat gain/glare is still quite annoying so I'm looking at a number of options to shade the patio doors outside that might also make the patio comfortable for our kids on hot days. The kitchen window is less of an issue. The sliding doors are more of a problem even with solar-reflective glass.

I'm considering a sail shade I think we'll need 150x150mm timbers or 100mmx100mm steels sunk relatively deep (1:2 ratio above:below ground) to ensure we can put decent tension into the sail and avoid sagging. Getting a proper sail (i.e. not a £100 one from Amazon) along with the aforementioned hardware bumps this solution up in cost further.

Any guide on how best to spec this? Is there an alternative solution that you'd recommend instead?

I have 2x cantilever parasols but the weight (plastic, filled with water each year) now all leak, they take up quite a lot of floor space and sit too low to properly shade the doors so I'd prefer not to use them. Has anyone used a wall-mounted parasol? Any good?

 

[Notch7]

venetian blinds would be a possible solution

as its a sliding door, if you have a pair of blinds you have more flexibility

you could of course have blinds internally to the double glazing but that will cost you around £1k id guess

 

[John Peden]

venetian blinds would be a possible solution

as its a sliding door, if you have a pair of blinds you have more flexibility

you could of course have blinds internally to the double glazing but that will cost you around £1k id guess

Thanks for the reply, as explained in my post I already have internal blinds. I'm trying to add shade to the patio area whilst boosting the level of shade inside.

 

[Odds]

You could find a parasol type shade to attach to the wall and furl when not in use. Made in Germany, i think.

 

[John Peden]

You could find a parasol type shade to attach to the wall and furl when not in use. Made in Germany, i think.

Yeah, I've seen these and I quite like them. If we can turn, angle it then I think it'll work really nicely. Will run it past the mrs to see what she thinks.

 

[Odds]

Yeah, I've seen these and I quite like them. If we can turn, angle it then I think it'll work really nicely. Will run it past the mrs to see what she thinks.

Going by the size of your patio i'd agree the parasol would give good shade - but Her decision is final, right?

 

[John Peden]

Does the question need to be asked?

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

What about a pergola with hanging planting?

 

[John Peden]

What about a pergola with hanging planting?

Also a consideration. The first landscapers that came to quote on the job weren't convinced that the space worked especially well with a pergola due to the differing roof heights from the 2x extensions that have been added over the years (see pics in the first post).

I think it might work reasonably well provided the climbers didn't decimate the wooden structure of the pergola and cause it to rot.

 

[RandomGrinch]

I think it might work reasonably well provided the climbers didn't decimate the wooden structure of the pergola and cause it to rot.

When pergolas were mentioned, my thoughts went to something like this:

Hartman Cast Aluminium Roma Pergola 3m x 3m

This square aluminium pergola comes in a choice of Bronze or Grey.

www.hayesgardenworld.co.uk

It may just work?

 

[John Peden]

When pergolas were mentioned, my thoughts went to something like this:

Hartman Cast Aluminium Roma Pergola 3m x 3m

This square aluminium pergola comes in a choice of Bronze or Grey.

www.hayesgardenworld.co.uk

It may just work?

The new patio is approx 7m wide x 4m deep so it'd fit, I just wonder if it'd look a bit **** next to the relatively low height of the flat roof?

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

I would think one just needs to be designed to work with the existing roof, a landscaper with some imagination perhaps.

 

[Odds]

When pergolas were mentioned, my thoughts went to something like this:

Hartman Cast Aluminium Roma Pergola 3m x 3m

This square aluminium pergola comes in a choice of Bronze or Grey.

www.hayesgardenworld.co.uk

It may just work?

It might become a roosting spot for birds or a climbing frame for squirrels, too.

 

[Koolpc]

Build a brick wall infront of window and doors! Lol

 

[foxhole]

You don’t need anything like the steel you mentioned to support a sail, held mine up with small timber post and a couple of lines ,tent style.