1.5mm² lighting cables - 3 lights- do they have to be in-line?

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markyd1 said:
Thanks for your kind regards....but......the new downlights will come with instructions stating they should be fitted by a competent electrician....also they will prob come with push fit connectors...so if the op doesnt get a good connection with the cpc which can easily happen with push fit and the earth sleeving,then the end of line may not be protected.....so no rcd protection.....so testing required......and lastly.....REGS END OF
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So, to repeat my question, is it your view that (for reasons such as you mention) no DIY electrical work should ever be done (or 'allowed')?

... and, as a matter of curiosity, if that IS your view (which would be fair enough), why are you participating in a 'DIY Electrics' forum?

Kind Regards, John
 
JohnW2 said:
So, to repeat my question, is it your view that (for reasons such as you mention) no DIY electrical work should ever be done (or 'allowed')?

... and, as a matter of curiosity, if that IS your view (which would be fair enough), why are you participating in a 'DIY Electrics' forum?

Kind Regards, John
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Do the work...but make sure its safe........if a diy,er can do that then not a problem.......if something goes wrong because he has done the work unsafely and someone gets hurt are you as the person who advised him going to stand up in court and say it was me who told him how to do it........the advice given here was all good...but not a mention of testing to make sure its safe
 
markyd1 said:
Do the work...but make sure its safe........if a diy,er can do that then not a problem.......if something goes wrong because he has done the work unsafely and someone gets hurt are you as the person who advised him going to stand up in court and say it was me who told him how to do it........the advice given here was all good...but not a mention of testing to make sure its safe
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Although I understand all your arguments, you seem to be evading my question - so I'll have one more try ....

.... given your views, and given the fact that very very few DIYers will have the means and/or ability to undertake all of the sort of testing that has been mentioned, do you feel that the only advice that can 'safely' be given to such a person is not to attempt any electrical DIY work? If such is your view, I would have no problem with that, but you seem very reluctant to confirm that such is what you feel and believe.

Kind Regards, John
 
JohnW2 said:
Although I understand all your arguments, you seem to be evading my question - so I'll have one more try ....

.... given your views, and given the fact that very very few DIYers will have the means and/or ability to undertake all of the sort of testing that has been mentioned, do you feel that the only advice that can 'safely' be given to such a person is not to attempt any electrical DIY work? If such is your view, I would have no problem with that, but you seem very reluctant to confirm that such is what you feel and believe.

Kind Regards, John
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If they cant do the testing to make sure its safe...then don t touch it.......if you bought a gas oven and the in structions stated that a gas safe engineer must fit it...would you fit it because some bloke said connect the pipe and do the nut up tight......i hope not........if people want to change like for like then no problem........additions or new circuits come under regs.....no more argument..........have enjoyed this chat
 
markyd1 said:
Do the work...but make sure its safe........if a diy,er can do that then not a problem.......if something goes wrong because he has done the work unsafely and someone gets hurt are you as the person who advised him going to stand up in court and say it was me who told him how to do it........the advice given here was all good...but not a mention of testing to make sure its safe
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A few points come to mind:
a) It's quite a stretch from, even if something went wrong, to even suggest that John might be responsible. The one certainly does not confirm the other, even slightly. To imply such, especially using the wording that you have is extremely offensive.
b) I wasn't asking about the regs, was I?
 
markyd1 said:
If they cant do the testing to make sure its safe...then don t touch it.......if you bought a gas oven and the in structions stated that a gas safe engineer must fit it...would you fit it because some bloke said connect the pipe and do the nut up tight......i hope not........if people want to change like for like then no problem........additions or new circuits come under regs.....no more argument..........have enjoyed this chat
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Just another forum newbie with that old clunker 'the Part P in it's 'Sword of Damoclese' severest interpretation', the homeowner will not even run new cables in, fix new cable clips etc

Nothing new to see here folks..
 
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Dain1 said:
A few points come to mind:
a) It's quite a stretch from, even if something went wrong, to even suggest that John might be responsible. The one certainly does not confirm the other, even slightly. To imply such, especially using the wording that you have is extremely offensive.
b) I wasn't asking about the regs, was I?
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No you didnt ask about the Regs...because you dont want to know....you just want to do a job that could be left in an unsafe condition....so carry on............'Offensive'...........mind you dont melt
 
markyd1 said:
........if people want to change like for like then no problem........
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Why not (from your viewpoint)? - any electrical work should be followed by appropriate testing - so would you not be concerned about your court appearance if you advised a DIYer (who didn't have the means/ability to undertake testing) to go ahead and effect 'like for like changes'?

Kind Regards, John
 
JohnW2 said:
Why not (from your viewpoint)? - any electrical work should be followed by appropriate testing - so would you not be concerned about your court appearance if you advised a DIYer (who didn't have the means/ability to undertake testing) to go ahead and effect 'like for like changes'?

Kind Regards, John
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Doesnt come under regs.......and i wouldnt advise them to start with.......
 
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