You can't stop idiots doing stupid things. BS52 plugs are hard to find now though.
You can only advise, and a 13amp socket on a lighting circuit is a stupid thing.
Can you run a socket for a low power device from lighting?
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You can't stop idiots doing stupid things. BS52 plugs are hard to find now though.
You can only advise, and a 13amp socket on a lighting circuit is a stupid thing.
I think I can probably trump that, not from a Google search or flameport's archives but from real items in my cellar ...
Either would be good for running a vacuum cleaner from a B22 or E27 lampholder, respectively, I reckon
Kind Regards, John
I am dismayed, John, at your advice to StEng24 where he may have lots of sockets and his lights on his garage 13A circuit.
Goodness, he may plug in two things leading to a catastrophe.
Goodness, he may plug in two things leading to a catastrophe.
Driven?
Whatever they did, he was certainly converted - or inverted.
Is that in the same way that if he is concerned that dimmer switches in kitchens will lead to people chopping their fingers instead of their onions he ought to be campaigning for nobody to have light switches?
Face it John - you are trying to reason with, and expect reason from, someone who doesn't know what reason is.
Yes, it was a unforgivable suggestion
Indeed, regardless of the current-supplying capabilities of the circuit, heaven forbid that anyone should suggest that the sockets circuit should be RCD protected (even though required by regs) and that the lighting be run via an FCU from that circuit (or that there could be an RCD-protected 'mini-CU' supplying both sockets and lighting circuits)
Kind Regards, John
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I have installed un-switched 13a sockets upside down and labeled ' 6a max' in this situation. No worries about plunging the user into darkness, if they can't take the hint they are blind !
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That raises an interesting off-topic point
Does a house specifically built for and occupied by a blind person require lighting circuits. ?
Does a house specifically built for and occupied by a blind person require lighting circuits. ?
Oh we are all fully aware of that, Winston.
Elaborate?
Shall we discuss the time he falsified a statement from me, then on the basis of that called me a liar, refused to apologise, refused to discuss it, and as soon as he had decided that he had had enough of being asked to apologise, who did you support, and who did you forcibly silence?
If you want a more recent one, https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/dimmable-lights-hardly-dimming.505477/ - the first time I asked him to justify the advice he was giving the OP, to show that the advice was good, and not nonsense, the question removed.
Here: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/under-unit-lighting.504952/ he thought that it would be helpful to tell the OP not to have a dimmer switch in a kitchen because his partner would choose to risk an accident rather than turn the lights up. When asked why he thought that, when asked to show that his advice was good, and not nonsense, he declared:
and you locked the topic.
MOD: and we're done with this thread too.
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Occupancy changes.Does a house specifically built for and occupied by a blind person require lighting circuits. ?
However, to answer your question, I'm personally not aware of a 'requirement' that any house has to have any lighting circuits (or, indeed, any electrical installation) at all.
Kind Regards, John
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Don't you mean Electronically transformed?Transformed.........
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Depends where you are in the world.
Not sure what the UK rules are, but I know that to get a mortgage, the dwelling needs to have a water supply and a kitchen and bathroom in-situ.
If you are a tenant in California, all appliances provided under the tenancy must work, including heating and cooling appliances, like a furnace, A/C and fridges/ freezers.
A broken gate or window could make the dwelling uninhabitable, as could criminal activity in the neighbourhood.
Like you, I'm in the UK, more specifically in England, and that's what I'm talking about.
I can well believe that, and it makes some sense, but it's got nothing to do with 'what is required'. I was recently talking to a mortgage broker that some lenders are very reluctant to give mortgages on houses with Artex! What mortgage lenders are concerned about is the 'sellability' (and value) of a property if they have to repossess it, and the absence of what most people would regard as 'essential utilities' would therefore be expected to put them off in a big way.
I'm sure that there must be some of our 'very green' friends living in (un-mortgaged) dwellings in the middle of nowhere without any formal utility supplies (gas, electricity, water, sewage etc.) at all, and I don't think that that, per se, necessarily means that they are in violation of any rules, laws or regulations (provided they have the necessary 'permissions', like Planning consent).
For all I know, the same could well be true of rented accommodation in the UK - it certainly wouldn't be unreasonable. However, that is again different from the question of whether it is allowable, per se, to have a house without an electricity supply, or without lighting circuits.
I know it's not the UK, but my other half has some elderly relatives in rural Ireland (Eire) who have no electricity or piped gas (and maybe not piped water - since I know they have a well) - and so are reliant for everything on solid fuel, cans of oil and bottled gas.
Kind Regards, John
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