Does a tumble dryer require its own socket?

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Read a post in local paper re a tumble dryer fire.
Within the fire service advise they recommend a single socket for the dryer I.e. don’t share with another appliance.
Currently I share with a washing machine and they can easily both be on at the same time.
Is this safe?
 
No to “Does a tumble dryer require its own socket?”
Or No to “Is is safe?”
 
Read a post in local paper re a tumble dryer fire.
Within the fire service advise they recommend a single socket for the dryer I.e. don’t share with another appliance.
Currently I share with a washing machine and they can easily both be on at the same time.
Is this safe?
Millions of people probably have tumble dryers supplied by a double socket that also supplies another significant appliance.

The 'risk'' is extremely small (and really shouldn't exist at all if double sockets always did "what it says or should say) on their tin"), but to have an appliance like a dryer supplied from its "own socket" (which could be a double one, if the other outlet wasn't used for anything 'high powered') is even 'safer'.

Kind Regards, John
 
when we see someone grumbling about a socket and plug damaged by overheat, it is I think the most common cause.
 
when we see someone grumbling about a socket and plug damaged by overheat, it is I think the most common cause.
That's true. However, such reports are, in themselves, fairly rare (despite the probably 'millions' of cases of a dryer sharing a double socket with something else sizeable), so I would imagine that the number of cases in which thermal damage to a plug/socket has progressed to actually 'causing a fire' must be extremely small.

Certainly in the past, house fires as a result of a dryer itself 'bursting into flames' (no matter how supplied) were probably far more common than ones due to overheating of plugs/sockets supplying them.
 
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If an appliance uses more than 2 kW and is not portable, appendix 15 of BS 7671 suggests one way to stop overload for a long period is to use a dedicated supply.

Since my tumble drier uses 600 watt, it does not need a dedicated supply, and most modern heat pump tumble driers will not need a dedicated supply.

Even my old vented tumble drier had two options 1 kW or 2 kW, it would trip out on overheat on 2 kW setting so always used on 1 kW setting. And so did not need a dedicated supply. And even at 2 kW it would be right on the limit, so still some debate as to if it needs a dedicated supply, and the regulations say "This can generally be achieved by:" it does not say you must use that method.

The problem is down to getting the heat away from a plug, and not overloading one end of a ring final, if the socket is reasonably central on the ring final then no problem with overload. As to the plug, if supplied with the machine, it should be of a colour and type able to remove the heat if in free air, the problem is when the socket is under a counter top, so not in free air, and the plug is hidden from view, so any signs of over heating is hidden from the user.

Plugs and sockets are designed to be unplugged and plugged back in, and the action of doing this cleans the pins, as to if required, depends on what the contact surface is made from, so no regulations says they must be unplugged after use.

As to tumble drier fires, must are caused by bad design or poor maintenance, which results in a build up of fluff on the heating element, I am sure someone can find somewhere a report of a modern heat pump drier going on fire, but I do not know of any.

As to sharing a socket with a washing machine, yes double socket rated at 20 amp not 26 amp on a continuous basis, the element in the washing machine likely only works for 5 minutes, so not really a continuous basis, and since most washing machines are on wheels, they are classed as portable in spite of their weight.
 
There are countless double sockets in use in the UK for washing machines and tumble dryers.

It’s not dangerous but a new installation would probably have them separated - I always do but countless sparks do install 2 g sockets
 
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If an appliance uses more than 2 kW and is not portable, appendix 15 of BS 7671 suggests one way to stop overload for a long period is to use a dedicated supply.
It doesn't actually say anything about "not portable" - it refers specifically to cookers, ovens and hobs of >2 kW, and also to immersion heaters and "comprehensive electric space heating or loads of a similar profile" - in all of which cases it suggests that they should not be supplied from a ring final circuit.

However, even when those recommendations do apply (which they don't in the case of a tumble dryer), they only exist to reduce the risk of any part of the cable of a ring final circuit becoming overloaded 'for long periods' - and therefore have nothing to do with the overheating of plugs/sockets and would not apply in, for example, the case of a 3/32A multi-socket radial circuit.
 
Read a post in local paper re a tumble dryer fire.
Within the fire service advise they recommend a single socket for the dryer I.e. don’t share with another appliance.
Currently I share with a washing machine and they can easily both be on at the same time.
Is this safe?
Each outlet of a double socket is rated at 13A, The british standard for testing a double socket is to fully load one socket to 13A and load the other to 6A and check for temperature rise.

Most tumbledriers are in the range of 1 to 2KW or roughly 5 to 9A (ours{1990 era} is switchable 1 or 2 KW which seems typical of older machines) and has cohabited on a double socket with washing machine or dishwasher (of approximately 2 to 2.5KW) for pretty much all of its life with no overheating damage caused to any of the sockets.

However we never and I truly do mean never take something out of the washing machine and straight into the tumbler to dry from wet so it doesn't run for half hour at a time like our neighbours. I'd also say it's unlikely we have the washing machine and tumbler running at the same time.

What I don't do is load a double socket long term to much more than 13A (as an example I do some stage lighting type work, typically using 500W bulbs so a double socket should be fine for 6 or 7 at a time for the duration of a show).

In my experience it's more common for the plugs to overheat which then burns the socket frontplate, as such I would say the good thing to do is just feel the plugs when been in use for a little while (say 10-20 minutes) to see how warm they get. If they get hot then come back here and ask for further advice.
 
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