There were rich people for as long as you want to go back through history, you know
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There were rich people for as long as you want to go back through history, you know
Yes, the ex-smokers.
The ones still smoking are paying over £10 for a packet of fags.
Indirectly, we are all poorer because the black market for cigarettes has become massive and the public purse does not make money from tobacco duty as much as before.
And the nhs saving is not there because people are still smoking, in fact, they're smoking tobacco from somewhere which could not be as refined as the one sold here and more harmful.
Yes, I give you that.
Never mind that to do something 3 miles away I can go by car in a few minutes, while to go on foot I would spend all day.
Very good for people who live on taxpayer's expenses.
Of course, and they've learned how to instill fear in the poor so to screw them left right and centre with heavier and heavier taxes.There were rich people for as long as you want to go back through history, you know
The rich don't raise taxes, nor receive them.
The rich get rich by giving people what they want, or need.
You don't like "green" : we get it.
But at least do everyone the courtesy of not making shoite up to justify your position, in the vain belief that anyone will fall for it.
My daily dog walk takes around an hour and I regularly do 3-4 miles. Not all day, but you could compromise and go by bike. Mind you, where I walk my dog is about 7 miles away so I go by car.
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The rich lobby the political parties to get richer.
If they gave us what we want, how come they don't give us a million each?
I want a million, any rich bastard is gonna give it to me?
Get your feet anchored on the ground of this planet.
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Was it not ever thus? Perhaps your statement is increasingly valid when the prevailing administration appears composed of little but liars, opportunists and grifters. Anyway, I thought you were a tory?
Not a Tory, not a Labour.
I vote accordingly to the pledge, but then inevitably they all go back on their word, regardless of the party.
Yes, and they do exactly the same as the ones here...There are rich people outside of the UK, you know
Or worse...
Africa anyone???
So, you don't get rich unless you're lobbying politicians?
Got it
Got it
Who said that?So, you don't get rich unless you're lobbying politicians?
Got it
Does it change anything if you add "or need"?
In fact, I would go as far as saying that someone is convincing us that we "need" their shyt so they can get richer.
It must do, as you omitted it when countering my post
It's known as advertising.
It's not a new thing.
You did.
Surely even for someone like you doesn't mean...
I know it's difficult, but try your best.
One might be rich because they won the euromillion or they inherited a fortune, or even because they found a gap in the market and made good business.
All without any political "help"
Some others, and this means NOT all of them, lobby politicians to get richer.
Again, I know it's extremely difficult to understand, but think about the plastic giants, or the insulation/ solar panels producers and the same automotive industry which is now set to make trillions with this rush to "green" vehicles.
I won't go into the pollution discussion of disposing of billions of vehicles and producing new ones all in one go; that's a subject for people with a bit more than 3 neurons.
It's impossible, as you shift the goalposts each time your line is shown up.
For instance,
Which I'd already said, back in. #58
Which was my response to your post :
And now you're saying that [the rich buying political influence is the key to them being rich] is not necessarily the case......
.... which is what I've been saying all along.
Your obsession with "green" causes you to just flail wildly.
You're not selling it to me, so save yourself the stress
Read up about the magic word "or".It's impossible, as you shift the goalposts each time your line is shown up.
For instance,
Which I'd already said, back in. #58
Which was my response to your post :
And now you're saying that [the rich buying political influence is the key to them being rich] is not necessarily the case......
.... which is what I've been saying all along.
Your obsession with "green" causes you to just flail wildly.
You're not selling it to me, so save yourself the stress
Take your time.