How best to attach this light fitting to the ceiling?

fixitflav said:
From this I assumed you were considering either removing the fancy rose or hanging your lamp somewhere else, hence my #11
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Ahh sorry for the confusion. I want to go into the ceiling rose. I'm guessing as it's a Victorian house the ceiling rose should be on a joint or noggin as it's not central to the room and surely it's designed to take heavyish light fittings?
 
Have you considered this arrangement

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The lamp hangs from a joist that is capable of taking it's weight and the fixed wiring in the existing ceiling rose is not altered in any way.
 
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