Laptop for daughter ,puzzled plz help

I looked for sub-£400 laptops and it suggested these. From what you say the prices my be out of date. Do you see any?

HP 14-⁠ck (14-⁠ck0517sa)

Which? Score
68%
£399.00
Processor:
Intel Core i5-7200U
Weight:
1.464
Battery life:
4 out of 5
4 out of 5
Acer Aspire 5 A514-⁠52

Which? Score
68%
£380.00
Processor:
Intel Core i3-10110U
Weight:
1.513
Battery life:
4 out of 5
4 out of 5
HP 14S 14-⁠df0001na

Which? Score
65%
£330.00
Processor:
Intel Pentium N5000
Weight:
1.409
Battery life:
5 out of 5
5 out of 5
Lenovo Ideapad 120S-⁠14IAP (Pentium)

Which? Score
64%
£299.00
Processor:
Intel Pentium N4200
Weight:
1.457
Battery life:
4 out of 5
4 out of 5
Geo Book3X

Which? Score
62%
£199.00
Processor:
Intel Pentium N5000
Weight:
1.456
Battery life:
4 out of 5
4 out of 5
HP Chromebook x360 12b-⁠ca0001na

Which? Score
62%
£399.00
Processor:
Intel Pentium Silver N5000
Weight:
1.219
Battery life:
4 out of 5
4 out of 5
 
JohnD said:
sorry, can't see that one. There are several A315 models. Prices look too high.
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ACER ASPIRE 3 A315-21
  • AMD A6-9220e Dual Core Processor
  • 15.6" HD Screen
  • Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit
  • 4GB DDR4 RAM
  • 256GB SSD
  • Integrated AMD Radeon Graphics
  • USB3 | HDMI | Bluetooth
  • NX.GNVEK.043
Part No: NX.GNVEK.043

Stock Code: 62564488
JohnD said:
sorry, can't see that one. There are several A315 models. Prices look too high.
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JohnD said:
I looked for sub-£400 laptops and it suggested these. From what you say the prices my be out of date. Do you see any?

HP 14-⁠ck (14-⁠ck0517sa)

Which? Score
68%
£399.00
Processor:
Intel Core i5-7200U
Weight:
1.464
Battery life:
4 out of 5
4 out of 5
Acer Aspire 5 A514-⁠52

Which? Score
68%
£380.00
Processor:
Intel Core i3-10110U
Weight:
1.513
Battery life:
4 out of 5
4 out of 5
HP 14S 14-⁠df0001na

Which? Score
65%
£330.00
Processor:
Intel Pentium N5000
Weight:
1.409
Battery life:
5 out of 5
5 out of 5
Lenovo Ideapad 120S-⁠14IAP (Pentium)

Which? Score
64%
£299.00
Processor:
Intel Pentium N4200
Weight:
1.457
Battery life:
4 out of 5
4 out of 5
Geo Book3X

Which? Score
62%
£199.00
Processor:
Intel Pentium N5000
Weight:
1.456
Battery life:
4 out of 5
4 out of 5
HP Chromebook x360 12b-⁠ca0001na

Which? Score
62%
£399.00
Processor:
Intel Pentium Silver N5000
Weight:
1.219
Battery life:
4 out of 5
4 out of 5
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Yeah they all gone up in price,or not available
 
there is a test of a 314-21 which has similar spec, it came out bad.
 
yes, apart from the bigger screen the spec is similar to 314-21

General
GraphicsAMD Radeon R4 Graphics

the report is very bad

Overview
It’s hard to find a positive about this laptop beyond its distinctive red plastic shell. Its biggest crime is being very, very slow, which has never been acceptable but is even less so in 2020 when there are dozens of similarly priced alternatives that are faster. It narrowly misses out on being made a Don’t Buy as a result.
What is it?


A 14-inch laptop with an AMD A6 processor, 4GB of Ram and a 128GB solid-state drive (SSD). Its selection of ports is somewhat retro for a compact laptop, with three USB ports, HDMI, a micro-SD card reader and an Ethernet port, which is rare these days. There’s also a 3.5mm headphone jack.


Its red plastic shell makes it stand out from the crowd, but it feels desperately cheap and nasty, and doesn’t seem as though it will stand up to any knocks unless you treat it with a great deal of care.


What’s it like to use?

Upsettingly slow. While it takes just 14 seconds to boot up, consider that many modern laptops can manage this in five seconds and you start to get the picture. Web pages take an age to load and program load speeds might be better to measure using a calendar rather than a stopwatch. It’s not immediately clear why it’s so slow, but that’s what our lab tests discovered.


With that in mind, most of its other characteristics are left fairly moot. The touchpad is inconsistent and has a very cheap-feeling click that isn’t comfortable to use.


What are the screen and sound like?

The screen is drab and has narrow viewing angles, so images don’t look great and text lacks the clarity that you need to read, especially at smaller font sizes. The speakers, too, are very poor and don’t offer any clarity or bass. Music and films alike sound very thin and weedy.


How long does the battery last?

Battery life is one area where this laptop is just fine. Not great, but it saves it from being made a Don’t Buy. It managed just under eight hours of video playback and just under six hours of web browsing.


Should I buy it?

No. It might not be an official Don’t Buy (which requires a score of less than 45%), but it’s absolutely not worth even adding to your shortlist at any price.
 
do you think she's be dissatisfied with a Tablet?

I use a Samsung Galaxy Tab A.

Good value.

Ah, but no proper keyboard. No good for school work.
 
JohnD said:
do you think she's be dissatisfied with a Tablet?

I use a Samsung Galaxy Tab A.

Good value.

Ah, but no proper keyboard. No good for school work.
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It's so she can play sims ,shes got a old ipad but its sims she wants to play
 
JohnD said:
yes, apart from the bigger screen the spec is similar to 314-21

General
GraphicsAMD Radeon R4 Graphics

the report is very bad

Overview
It’s hard to find a positive about this laptop beyond its distinctive red plastic shell. Its biggest crime is being very, very slow, which has never been acceptable but is even less so in 2020 when there are dozens of similarly priced alternatives that are faster. It narrowly misses out on being made a Don’t Buy as a result.
What is it?


A 14-inch laptop with an AMD A6 processor, 4GB of Ram and a 128GB solid-state drive (SSD). Its selection of ports is somewhat retro for a compact laptop, with three USB ports, HDMI, a micro-SD card reader and an Ethernet port, which is rare these days. There’s also a 3.5mm headphone jack.


Its red plastic shell makes it stand out from the crowd, but it feels desperately cheap and nasty, and doesn’t seem as though it will stand up to any knocks unless you treat it with a great deal of care.


What’s it like to use?

Upsettingly slow. While it takes just 14 seconds to boot up, consider that many modern laptops can manage this in five seconds and you start to get the picture. Web pages take an age to load and program load speeds might be better to measure using a calendar rather than a stopwatch. It’s not immediately clear why it’s so slow, but that’s what our lab tests discovered.


With that in mind, most of its other characteristics are left fairly moot. The touchpad is inconsistent and has a very cheap-feeling click that isn’t comfortable to use.


What are the screen and sound like?

The screen is drab and has narrow viewing angles, so images don’t look great and text lacks the clarity that you need to read, especially at smaller font sizes. The speakers, too, are very poor and don’t offer any clarity or bass. Music and films alike sound very thin and weedy.


How long does the battery last?

Battery life is one area where this laptop is just fine. Not great, but it saves it from being made a Don’t Buy. It managed just under eight hours of video playback and just under six hours of web browsing.


Should I buy it?

No. It might not be an official Don’t Buy (which requires a score of less than 45%), but it’s absolutely not worth even adding to your shortlist at any price.
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Not a good one then
 
does that need a good keypad?

I suppose in a few months availability of laptops will improve.

It's very frustrating that the price rises seem to have pushed all the good ones out of reach.
 
Hopefully I will find s decent one for around £350 but not having any luck so far ,think as I need it to play sims on going to struggle price wise
 
Lots of confusing info here...

-The Sims does not require anything particularly high end but I'd recommend an AMD Ryzen based laptop for their reasonably powerful built in graphics.

-I strongly advise against buying second hand as you can easily end up buying a 10+ year old laptop for 2 year old laptop money if you don't know what the specs mean.

-Unfortunately prices are very high at the minute

-A quick look around reveals this which looks good to me and comes in at £430 with offer code PERCENT20: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-I...799575?hash=item2ad8e96017:g:H7QAAOSwX1ZemcDW

-or-

this which is basically the same thing but with a 15.6" screen rather than 14": https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-V...bb25:g:9MAAAOSwzRlemcJ~&LH_ItemCondition=1000
 
fluorescence said:
Lots of confusing info here...

-The Sims does not require anything particularly high end but I'd recommend an AMD Ryzen based laptop for their reasonably powerful built in graphics.

-I strongly advise against buying second hand as you can easily end up buying a 10+ year old laptop for 2 year old laptop money if you don't know what the specs mean.

-Unfortunately prices are very high at the minute

-A quick look around reveals this which looks good to me and comes in at £430 with offer code PERCENT20: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-I...799575?hash=item2ad8e96017:g:H7QAAOSwX1ZemcDW

-or-

this which is basically the same thing but with a 15.6" screen rather than 14": https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-V155-15-6-Windows-10-Laptop-AMD-Ryzen-5-3500U-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-DVDRW/184218925861?epid=3034601792&hash=item2ae44dbb25:g:9MAAAOSwzRlemcJ~&LH_ItemCondition=1000
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Thanks ,looks like I'm going to need to spend a bit more £450 is max really .they Both look ok to me are they better or as good as i5
 
R5-3500u is roughly equivalent to an 8th generation core i5(u) and has much better built in graphics
 
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