Lighting problem, ceiling spot lights

[WhydidIstart]

True, perhaps it's better to say the OP needs to satisfy themselves that a fire rated downlight is not required by the Building Regs Part B before choosing to buy a non-fire rated one.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I had a set of 22 old MR16 12V halogen lamps in a kitchen/dining room

22

Was it a room the size of an aircraft hangar?

Or a room you were trying to light with lights not actually very good at the job of lighting up rooms?

 

[WhydidIstart]

22

Was it a room the size of an aircraft hangar?

Or a room you were trying to light with lights not actually very good at the job of lighting up rooms?

The original MR16 12V halogens were already there. It's a fair sized room but I think whoever put them in went over the top. It works well with 4W - 5W GU10 LEDs though as they are not quite as bright as the 50W halogens, so it worked out quite well.

 

[JohnW2]

The original MR16 12V halogens were already there. It's a fair sized room but I think whoever put them in went over the top. It works well with 4W - 5W GU10 LEDs though as they are not quite as bright as the 50W halogens, so it worked out quite well.

For once, I think I have to sympathise with BAS's view about this. 1,100W of halogens for one room (unless really enormous) sounds way OTT, as does 88-110W of LEDs!

I inherited a (pretty large) kitchen/breakfast room that had 15 x 25W incandescent candle bulbs (in 5 treble fittings) - and that 375W for a single room seemed pretty excessive (and very 'well lit'!), but that's not much more than a third of the halogens you had!

Kind Regards, John

 

[WhydidIstart]

That sounds like a lot of candle bulbs, at least they weren't 60W each! I agree, it's too many down lights. They are connected in 3 circuits, so I think the idea was to be able to light different areas.

 

[JohnW2]

That sounds like a lot of candle bulbs, at least they weren't 60W each!

Indeed, on both counts. To be honest, I'm not certain (a very long time ago) that they actually were 25W when I acquired them, but that (the smallest I could get!) was certainly what I put in thereafter. It is quite a big room (I think around 8m x 4m or thereabouts), but 375W was still a lot. However ...

They are connected in 3 circuits, so I think the idea was to be able to light different areas.

Similar here - with kitchen and breakfast room on different switches - so the choice of one, the other or both parts.

I have to confess that we have retained those fittings (they quite suit the 'style' of the room), and we're now down to 15 x 3W LEDs - still a lot, but only a fraction of what I started with.

Kind Regards, John

 

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[bsr]

Builder2011, rather than replacing the transformers it would be better to remove them entirely.

Get some LED down lighters.The mains voltage cable that goes into the transformer instead goes straight into the light.

This will save you energy and mean less replacement in future. It also prevents problems from some transformers not being compatible with LED bulbs.

Here's an example:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-fixe...or-pack-white-370lm-5w-220-240v-10-pack/728fj