Major Incident In Southport

speccy said:
Good morning all.

Omg ive Honestly I've not heard such a load of narrow minded stuck in a bedroom forum talk since..I was on here yesterday.

Who says?

Ok so let's confirm a few things.
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Yes, let's do that.

The Southport riots were heavily populated by the far right.

www.bbc.co.uk

Violent Southport protests reveal far-right organising tactics

Online influencers, rather than formal leaders, are mobilising the extreme right on the streets.
www.bbc.co.uk

An influencer on X associated with Yaxley-Lennon, who posts under the name of “Lord Simon”, was among the first to publicly call for nationwide protests. His account promoted false claims that the alleged Southport attacker had been an asylum seeker, recently arrived in the UK by boat. His video has been viewed over a million times.

“We have to hit the streets. We have to make a huge impact all around the country. Every city needs to go up everywhere,” he said.
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In London they were chanting for Yaxley Lennon and featured Lawrence Fox.

During the protest, staged under the title of Enough is Enough, fireworks and flares were let off near a statue of Winston Churchill and towards the gates of Downing Street.

The angry scenes also included loud chants of “We want our country back” and “Oh Tommy Robinson,” referring to the rightwing activist whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon
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www.standard.co.uk

Police 'punched and kicked' at London rally after Southport stabbings as 111 arrested

One officer was ‘punched in the chest and another kicked multiple times’, both receiving injuries
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk

metro.co.uk

Laurence Fox declares 'this is our community' as he leads Tommy Robinson rally

Meanwhile, others chanted: 'We want our country back.'
metro.co.uk metro.co.uk

Hartlepool has had some guilty pleas and the names of those charged so you can see names. If you had time you could check Facebook and Twitter.

They targeted a Mosque, that typically a target for the far right and there were reports of Tommy Robinson chanting.

www.bbc.co.uk

Southport: Two men admit violent disorder over Hartlepool unrest

Seven men and one woman have been charged after disorder broke out on Teesside on Wednesday.
www.bbc.co.uk

Manchester featured 'stop the boats' and more Tommy Robinson chanting.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Protests in Manchester turn to trouble in MINUTES as man is arrested

Protests in Manchester turned to trouble in just a few minutes with two men arrested for public order offences, as tinderbox Britain braces for further mayhem.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

The Aldershot protest was outside and asylum seeker hotel. Im betting that wasn't a 'Gays against Nazis' protest.

These protests are being organized by the far right and they're hitting all the usual far right targets. Muslims, Asylum seekers and the Police.
 
transam said:
I recall that eminent (?) politician Shirley Williams (RIP) made a speech at the Labour Party conference where she spoke of the
Fascists of the left
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Indeed. Oswald Mosely the founder of the British Fascist movement, was, at one time, a Labour MP.
He was very much like Farage, tried every angle:
The British Union of Fascists, later called the British Union of Fascists and National Socialists, was founded in1932 by Sir Oswald Mosley, a wealthy baronet with a distinguished war record, who had been, successively, a Conservative, Independent, and then a Labour Member of Parliament.
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Shirley Williams, left the left'ish Labour party and moved to the centre of British politics to help found the Social Democratic party. (SDP).
By the time of her retirement she was a Lib Dem.

IMO the Lib Dem are now slightly to the left of the current Labour Party.

The perpetual pendulum of British politics. :rolleyes:
 
speccy said:
Because we as a large majority
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These rioters have:

Attacked the police and torched police cars
Looted shops
Attacked a Mosque
Featured people with Nazi tattoos marching proudly int heir midst.

If you think they're the ones in the right, of you identify more with them than anyone else then I've got news for you. You aren't part of any majority. If you think they're being hard done by you probably aren't even part of the right wing minority.
 
festive said:
Keir needs to do one thing. Stop and reverse immigration, every leader has promised this and dismally failed. He won't and things will get worse.
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Kamala Harris is making inroads into the migration at the southern border of the USA.

Border Patrol agents recorded the fewest monthly migrant apprehensions since 2021 on southern border.​

The number of migrants apprehended by federal authorities after illegally crossing the border into Texas decreased roughly 32% in June — a sharp drop seen across the entire U.S.-Mexico border, according to federal statistics released this week.
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www.texastribune.org

Border Patrol agents recorded the fewest monthly migrant apprehensions since 2021 on southern border

Migrant apprehensions in Texas decreased by nearly one-third in June, the first month of a new order by President Joe Biden that widely limited asylum claims.
www.texastribune.org www.texastribune.org

Some are putting the reason for success on Biden's immigration policy.
But in the background, mostly unreported, Kamala Harris has been attacking the problem at source by creating jobs in the countries from where the migrants originate.
There's also been a phone app introduced to allow migrants to book an appointment with border officials.

Dealing with migration at the southern border was a task assigned to her by Biden.
It's beginning to look like she's smashed it.
 
Some people are always going to be angry. I remember telling Brexiters at the time of the referendum that Brexit wouldn't make them happy. I said they would just find something else to be angry about and that it would probably be non-white immigration.
 
Trazor said:
Ffs Wokeism, is well known....

Urban Dictionary: Woke

When this term became popularized, initially the meaning of this term was when an individual become more aware of the social injustice. Or basically, any current affairs related like biased, discrimination, or double-standards. However, as time passed by, people started using this term...
www.urbandictionary.com www.urbandictionary.com
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Thanks for that definition.

Woke​

When this term became popularized, initially the meaning of this term was when an individual become more aware of the social injustice. Or basically, any current affairs related like biased, discrimination, or double-standards.
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From your link
Based on that, I'm all for wokeism.
 
blup said:
Have always wondered why several million eu citizens who moved here under FoM rules were given unlimited right to remain after brexhit, logically they should have all been sent home and the brits given their jobs. But not even the most rabid brexxers suggested it, I wonder why.
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Because they were taking the "Black jobs"? a la Trump. :rolleyes:
 
Mrs Doubtfyre said:
Dealing with migration at the southern border was a task assigned to her by Biden.
It's beginning to look like she's smashed it.
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I posted about that on the can harris win thread. Actually she is doing well on deportations as well.No more as the subject has 0 to do with Southport. Immigration does but different problem here other than they too have a resident ethnic mix who actually live there. No signs of wanting to drive all out unlike here.
 
blup said:
Have always wondered why several million eu citizens who moved here under FoM rules were given unlimited right to remain after brexhit, logically they should have all been sent home and the brits given their jobs. But not even the most rabid brexxers suggested it, I wonder why.
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Lots of of EU immigrants who applied for indefinite right to remain had been here many years, 10, 15, 20 years.

3 million of them applied for settled status which requires living here over 5 years.

Many of them have made the U.K. their home, are in relationships often with Brits, have settled with a house, family, career.


Lots of EU people that came to work here are highly educated people in high powered, technical jobs……they contribute a huge amount to our economy
 
speccy said:
Good morning all.

Omg ive Honestly I've not heard such a load of narrow minded stuck in a bedroom forum talk since..I was on here yesterday.

Who says?

Ok so let's confirm a few things.

Anything bad behaviour is right wing right?

And none of them protesting can think for themselves, they're all being manipulated by extremists. Right wing of course. Flag shagging nationalists who should be ashamed of flying our flag?

The irony being you're repeating verbatim what your influencers want you to say too.

I love this country and want the best for it and the people. That includes respecting the people we've lost along the way making what we are today. Noone is shaming that out of me, I think some people struggle with that concept because they've never had that attachment.
The rioting and protests will start to get worse now. Because we as a large majority feel let down by the last government and we know the new one will not be any better. I'd prefer Biden over Starmer at least he'd make a decision.

I will show you why in a few more posts..bots need not reply.
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People like Farage and Trump are right wing populists

You’ve fallen for their lies.


I bet you voted Reform
 
ajohn said:
I posted about that on the can harris win thread. Actually she is doing well on deportations as well.No more as the subject has 0 to do with Southport. Immigration does but different problem here other than they too have a resident ethnic mix who actually live there. No signs of wanting to drive all out unlike here.
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I disagree that it has nothing to do with immigration policies in UK, and in relation to the RWR riots which are about immigration.
It shows that there are solutions that do work. But successive UK governments refuse to consider them.
 
Notch7 said:
Lots of EU people that came to work here are highly educated people in high powered, technical jobs……they contribute a huge amount to our economy
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The BBC did a program concerning some who tried going back to their original country. They gained the feeling that they no longer fitted in. They were not asked why they tried this but I'd guess 2 factors may figure, Not being in the EU any more and maybe noticing increasing racial tendencies. Also we had been in for a long time so may just have tried it earlier on. Job levels - I'd say it varied. Higher level jobs - they would still have no problem working here if needed. Some of this relates to Labour's must train our own at a number of job levels.
 
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