Man made climate change

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I find those graphs quite comforting. It's 1 degree warmer than the little ice age when crops were failing and people were dying.
 
More carbon dioxide in the air makes plants grow better.
The permanent frost thawing out frees up land for agriculture.
What's not to like.
 
fillyboy said:
I find those graphs quite comforting. It's 1 degree warmer than the little ice age when crops were failing and people were dying.
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The Little Ice Age wasn't a proper ice age. It was a series of cooling events which affected different parts of the world by differing amounts at different times. Hence, the global average temperature doesn't reflect the bad years when the adverse events you mention happened.
 
fillyboy said:
I find those graphs quite comforting
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Have you thought about what might happen if that almost vertical line just keeps going up?
 

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Vinty said:
More carbon dioxide in the air makes plants grow better.
The permanent frost thawing out frees up land for agriculture.
What's not to like.
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Global warming is predicted to cause, amongst other things, severe droughts, extreme weather, desertification, huge wild fires, food shortages, much higher sea levels and the acidification of the oceans. Those sound like things not to like.

The defrosted tundra won't be suitable for agriculture.
 
nwgs said:
Tell all the climate change activists to park their private jets up. Then we can take it seriously.

Until then it’s a load of nonsense.
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That makes no sense. Just because there are a few massive hypocrites, it doesn't change the facts or the science.
 
JonathanM said:
Have you thought about what might happen if that almost vertical line just keeps going up?
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I checked out the source of the BBC alarmist report and that graph and here is the Abstract in blue from the authors And my comments in black bold.

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Including an exceptionally warm Northern Hemisphere summer 2023 has been reported as the hottest year on record. however, because the sparse 19th century meteorological records tend to be too warm.
So when coming up with their figures of a big rise they are ignoring pre industrial warm periods because otherwise it would not look like such a big rise, and they are only talking about the northern hemisphere.
Here, we combine observed and reconstructed June-August surface air temperatures to show that 2023 was the warmest Northern Hemisphere extra-tropical summer over the past 2000 years exceeding the 95% confidence range of natural climate variability by more than half a degree Celsius.
So strip out the warm periods that they do not like and the rise is still only 0.5C in 2,000 years

Comparison of the 2023 summer warming against the coldest reconstructed summer in 536 CE reveals a maximum range of pre-Anthropocene-to-2023 temperatures of 3.93°C.
So as I pointed out earlier they are comparing in their words (exceptionally warm Northern Hemisphere summer 2023 that is amplified by an unfolding El Niño event ) with the coldest summer in 536 caused by a volcano blocking out the sun to get 3.93 C
Although 2023 is consistent with a greenhouse gases-induced warming trend that is amplified by an unfolding El Niño event8, this extreme emphasizes the urgency to implement international agreements for carbon emission reduction.
 
JonathanM said:
Global warming is predicted to cause, amongst other things, severe droughts, extreme weather, desertification, huge wild fires, food shortages, much higher sea levels and the acidification of the oceans. Those sound like things not to like.
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These have been happening for decades, probably longer. They now want to attribute these occurrences to global warming/climate change, or whatever scary words they can think up so they can tax and control us more.
 
Ihavenojob said:
They now want to attribute these occurrences to global warming/climate change, or whatever scary words they can think up so they can tax and control us more.
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No they don't, put your tinfoil hat away.
 
JonathanM said:
Global warming is predicted to cause, amongst other things, severe droughts, extreme weather, desertification, huge wild fires, food shortages, much higher sea levels and the acidification of the oceans. Those sound like things not to like.

The defrosted tundra won't be suitable for agriculture.
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Areas that are currently unsuitable for growing food will become suitable and with more CO2 they will thrive and not previously used the soil will be very fertile. So no food shortages.
If the sea is rising why do the world banks still give out loans to buy properties on coastal land - they must be stupid or the worlds bankers do not believe it.
Warmer climate means no need to burn fossil fuels to keep warm, or cook - who wants hot food in the summer - so we will then also eat less meat and more salad - which we will finally be able to grow in this country - which means less pollution from transport.
We in this country will no longer crave for some sunshine and so wont be flying off on holiday APART from Noseall as he still wants to jet off and go skiing of course.

So the irony is that by burning fossil fuels we will end up using less fossil fuels.
 
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