New Car Battery Plant

Notch7 said:
it is short term thinking

in the long term car manufacture will be located near to gigafactories

there is heavy investment in gigafactories across Europe, 40 new factories are planned

The UK needs to step up or it will end up not being in the game and never catching up
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UK chose to resign its membership of the world's finest single market, so is not a popular choice for a gigafactory.
 
It won't be a data centre or if it is that won't be the majority, maybe a 'digital hub' where they want to get IT companies in. Transam will have misheard it.
 
ajohn said:
No. It's what has been reported.
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Link? A data centre alone is almost unmanned these days. You've got security and that's almost it, one or two people to refurb racks when they're mostly dead but that's not full time.

And including the supply chain for a data centre is absurd. Including Taiwanese hard rice manufacturers and Israeli chip plant employees would be stupid beyond measure.
 
U.K. data centres create U.K. decision making. It’s not about how many tape monkeys get jobs.
 
Fine the BBC is swallowing a load of *******s. UK Data centers don't make that much difference
 
motorbiking said:
U.K. data centres create U.K. decision making
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really?

I thought a data centre was mostly the term used for a server processing and storing data

it might be good for Uk security rather than using offshore data centres, but its not "decision making" any more than a supermarket distribution hub
 
Where do you two think the cloud lives?

If a business runs a SaaS, PaaS or even an IaaS service in a cloud, it finds one that is close to the people who will use it. That is because of latency (networking hops and speed of electricity). Then you have all the data sovereignty, data processing agreements etc.

When choosing where to deploy those people, proximity to those services is important, it’s not just the location of servers. It’s buying high speed networks to and from the facilities. Fortunately the U.K. is extremely well serviced. But if it wasn’t.. well you can expect all those associated people to be relocated / replaced.

Again. It’s not about tape monkeys and security guards.
 
motorbiking said:
Where do you two think the cloud lives?

If a business runs a SaaS, PaaS or even an IaaS service in a cloud, it finds one that is close to the people who will use it. That is because of latency (networking hops and speed of electricity). Then you have all the data sovereignty, data processing agreements etc.

When choosing where to deploy those people, proximity to those services is important, it’s not just the location of servers. It’s buying high speed networks to and from the facilities. Fortunately the U.K. is extremely well serviced. But if it wasn’t.. well you can expect all those associated people to be relocated / replaced.

Again. It’s not about tape monkeys and security guards.
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The latency difference between a UK based and an EU based Data Centre is trivial for nearly all use cases. But the price of electricity and cost of cooling is significantly different in other countries.

If you actually need high performance and low latency then you build your own DC on site.
 
IT Minion said:
The latency difference between a UK based and an EU based Data Centre is trivial for nearly all use cases. But the price of electricity and cost of cooling is significantly different in other countries.

If you actually need high performance and low latency then you build your own DC on site.
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Tell Oracle, Microsoft, Google, AWS. Who all disagree.

They all made massive investments. Google spending 1bn this year on a new facility (Waltham cross)
 
11 miles from Canary Wharf. Is that far?
On the M25
And not as expensive to build or buy.
 
motorbiking said:
Tell Oracle, Microsoft, Google, AWS. Who all disagree.

They all made massive investments. Google spending 1bn this year on a new facility (Waltham cross)
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They're expanding capacity and they need somewhere to put them. You space them out for redundancy reasons and if you improve latency a bit then that's nice.

The reason we got UK data centres for Microsoft wasn't latency, it was regulatory.

Google only just putting it's first UK data centre in now is am excellent example of how it doesn't matter as much as you seem to think it does.
 
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