Nothing like the glory days of the past - Roaming charges are back

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Can you not read? I posted the bills. Get a grown up to show you. (y)
yes and you still have not posted your previous bills to show what you actually had as part of your plan so would have been charged regardless.

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Out of plan is purely that regardless of what country
 
Read the thread and you will see when he was challenged he was going to provide proof etc
Far too many pages to read atm and unlikely I'll get round to it.

My experience with people asking for proof over minor things like a roaming charge (I recognise that it's a privilege that I'm able to consider it minor after spending 1000 on a holiday) is that afterwards they claim any proof is fake or what's provided isn't enough because it doesn't support their world view. A simple google search will show that roaming charges exist on some contracts and some people will have those contracts. What more is there to argue about?

Must be comfortable for those people to live in a bubble where they don't need to question anything and everything that they don't like is fake or the result of some insane conspiracy theory.
 
Far too many pages to read atm and unlikely I'll get round to it.

My experience with people asking for proof over minor things like a roaming charge (I recognise that it's a privilege that I'm able to consider it minor after spending 1000 on a holiday) is that afterwards they claim any proof is fake cause or what's provided isn't enough because it doesn't support their world view.

Must be comfortable for those people to live in a bubble where they don't need to question anything and everything that they don't like is fake or the result of some insane conspiracy theory.
you will find that noseall just likes to lie and make things up regards anything to do with brexit so he gets challenged
 
The point is, nobody is forced to pay roaming charges if they don’t want to. It only seems to be the remainers that pay so they can say "See, leaving the EU has cost me. It’s shît". The wise Brexers know how to avoid those EU imposed charges. In fact it’s nothing to do with the EU really. If plenty of other operators can offer it, why can’t they all offer it? It's just a con by some networks using Brexit as an excuse.

When they were forced to offer EU roaming, who do you think paid for it? I’ll tell you, everybody that had a mobile whether they used EU roaming or not.
 
The point is, nobody is forced to pay roaming charges if they don’t want to. It only seems to be the remainers that pay so they can say "See, leaving the EU has cost me. It’s shît". The wise Brexers know how to avoid those EU imposed charges. In fact it’s nothing to do with the EU really. If plenty of other operators can offer it, why can’t they all offer it? It's just a con by some networks using Brexit as an excuse.

When they were forced to offer EU roaming, who do you think paid for it? I’ll tell you, everybody that had a mobile whether they used EU roaming or not.

Wise brexers is an oxymoron in my opinion. The fact that you now get contracts that include "free" roaming at a markup and no roaming at a cheaper price, it means you're still indirectly paying for roaming. Or you can go to a piggyback network that make their profit by reducing costs on customer support. Many of the piggyback networks don't have a helpline to call when things go wrong, so you're paying for it there by reduced service.

Everyone's situation is different but little benefit, if any, has come from brexit for me. It's a major reason why cost of living and inflation is rising higher in the UK than most of the EU in my opinion.

The company I work for makes industrial processing machinery. Designed and built in Britain. For at least 10 years pre brexit, we sold on average 20 machines a year, mainly to the EU, 4-6 million turnover per machine, healthy profit margin from what I gather. Post brexit, we've averaged 4. The drastic change is not coincidence, it's not COVID related as our EU competitors aren't having the same issues, what's on the market and our machines haven't changed. We were in a good market position at competitive prices, what has changed are the the new challenges and costs of import/export from UK to EU.

We've downsized considerably since, relocated to a smaller premises, and slashed our profit margins to try and regain market share. It's not worked thus far. Like brexit or not, the way it's been handled is shambolic. Lies, broken promises, and U-turns every step of the way. But with the clown Boris Johnson leading it, how could it have been anything other than a circus?

Anyhow, this is off topic. Doesn't matter who's fault roaming charges are, result is the same. Post-Brexit Britain pays roaming charges and you need to put in a little additional effort when picking your contract to manage the charge. You can either pay directly via the charge itself or indirectly to a lesser extent via higher contract rates or reduced customer service. Only winner here is the phone company collecting your money.
 
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The fact that you now get contracts that include "free" roaming at a markup and no roaming at a cheaper price, it means you're still indirectly paying for roaming.
That tells me you've not even looked at prices - it’s actually the other way around. It’s cheaper with roaming than without and as for customer service, what do you need customer service for? I’ve ported between ID mobile, Lebara, Asda mobile and Smarty with absolutely no problems. Between £5 and £7 a month for between 5 and 20Gb data with inclusive EU roaming? Fully automated and I've never needed to speak to 'customer service'. All of them are 30 day contracts too so if I was having trouble with them that I couldn’t resolve, I’d just move on. Are you telling me you can beat those prices without roaming from the big players and their superb 'customer service'?
 
That tells me you've not even looked at prices - it’s actually the other way around. It’s cheaper with roaming than without and as for customer service, what do you need customer service for? I’ve ported between ID mobile, Lebara, Asda mobile and Smarty with absolutely no problems. Between £5 and £7 a month for between 5 and 20Gb data with inclusive EU roaming? Fully automated and I've never needed to speak to 'customer service'. All of them are 30 day contracts too so if I was having trouble with them that I couldn’t resolve, I’d just move on. Are you telling me you can beat those prices without roaming from the big players and their superb 'customer service'?
The contractx that have inclusive EU roaing are still time limited. If you're out of UK for a month, you're EU roaming becomes chargable at hefty rates.
And your free roaming doesn't kick back in until you've been back in UK for a month.
 
you asked who paid roaming charges, not "who doesn't care about a couple quid here and there for roaming charges after spending 1000 on a holiday".

Like I said, it doesn't break the bank but it's £20 I wouldn't have had to pay before and would have rather kept.
I'm not sure he understands.

Trying to prove brexit hasn't changed things.

It's possible to get round it, but it's not the amounts involved, it's the fact it's worse than before
 
Complete tosh as per. No EU roaming plans are permanent on any network for U.K. based mobiles. Most give two months. If you're spending more than two months at a time in the EU, you should really be on a network in the country you are in. Is there really anybody on here that spends more than two months at a time in the EU? If so, what network do you use? In any case, you can only spend three months out of every 6 in the EU anyway.

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