Oh dear only when caught out.

denso13 said:
Basic human needs, but yes you could do that. Or you could have a better system that made use of their skills to our advantage. And save lives at the same time.
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Wake up for god sake!

The majority of people are coming from places with sod all education system! They don't have any skills!

It's absolute fantasy that all these young men are doctors and engineers!

Ever asked why so many British homeless don't get their "basic human needs" met?!
 
berty3000 said:
illegally are doing so precisely because they wouldn't succeed through the formal route as a result of
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Actually there aren't any formal routes for them. It seems in Rwanda that there will be.
 
The Irish are getting into a paddy about a recent increase in illegal immigration.
 
berty3000 said:
What makes you think they have skills that are useful to us?
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What makes you think they don't?
berty3000 said:
If so, wouldn't they have applied for residency the normal way as normal people do?
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They can't. What route do you mean?
berty3000 said:
And what if the ones entering illegally are doing so precisely because they wouldn't succeed through the formal route as a result of their criminal records, poor English, and lack of any qualifications or work experience?
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That is demonstrably wrong. The majority are given asylum because their claims are just.
berty3000 said:
Can you accept that some people will be tossing their passports away and drifting around Europe in a covert fashion, and lying about their backgrounds, because they are dangerous criminals who've fled their home countries to get out of dodge?
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Yes. So let's have checking done offshore for one thing. Is it not better to find solutions rather that bumping your gums about "illegals".?
berty3000 said:
Why do you think so many of the grizzly crimes happening here are by foreigners?
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Are they?
berty3000 said:
I think the main question here is: how wet behind the ears are you?
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Ad hom noted, you've lost it again.
 
dns1 said:
The majority of people are coming from places with sod all education system! They don't have any skills!
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So lets deal with them in a better way than getting in boats and losing their lives.
dns1 said:
It's absolute fantasy that all these young men are doctors and engineers!
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Who said they were?
dns1 said:
Ever asked why so many British homeless don't get their "basic human needs" met?!
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Yes, because this horrible Government are inept. Who else do you think are in charge?
 
denso13 said:
So lets deal with them in a better way than getting in boats and losing their lives.
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So, what do you suggest?! We already send billions in aid around the world
denso13 said:
Who said they were?
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Well, you claimed they had skills that we could use... what are those skills?!

denso13 said:
Yes, because this horrible Government are inept. Who else do you think are in charge?
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Yes, they are utterly incompetent, as are the potential Labour government, at least we agree on something
 
dns1 said:
So, what do you suggest?! We already send billions in aid around the world
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Have a search, I've said it loads of times.
dns1 said:
Well, you claimed they had skills that we could use... what are those skills?!
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Find out rather than dismissing them.
dns1 said:
as are the potential Labour government
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Lol, it's all Labour's fault, there's a surprise...
 
denso13 said:
Lol, it's all Labour's fault, there's a surprise...
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You're just a troll aren't you?

You don't read posts, you don't answer questions, you just post stupid things to get a reaction.

How pathetic

Goodbye
 
ajohn said:
North, South, free movement of eu or what. More details needed.
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There was a thread about this yesterday evening but it has disappeared. It wasn't totally clear what their status was.
 
ajohn said:
North, South, free movement of eu or what. More details needed.
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Been a surge of migrant movements from the North to the South seemingly since the Rwanda bill went through, the Irish are passing a law to enable them to ship them back to Blighty toute suite. Rishi commented that the Rwanda bill appears to be working already.

Another Brexit benefit. (y)
 
ajohn said:
North, South, free movement of eu or what. More details needed.
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The Government has accused the EU of double standards after Ireland vowed to send asylum seekers to the UK despite France refusing to take Channel migrants back.

The row erupted after senior Irish ministers said they would draft emergency laws to send back refugees who had arrived from the UK to avoid being deported to Rwanda.

However, Tory ministers consider the proposal a “non-starter” because they are unable to send asylum seekers who arrive on small boats across the Channel back to France.

A UK government source said: “We won’t accept any asylum returns from the EU via Ireland until the EU accepts that we can send them back to France. We are fully focused on operationalising our Rwanda scheme, and will continue working with the French to stop the boats from crossing the Channel.”

On Monday, the Home Office will start detaining asylum seekers to be deported to Rwanda, with the Government hoping that the first flights will take off in the summer.

It comes amid record numbers of migrants crossing the Channel before the end of April, with Home Office figures on Sunday showing the highest total of arrivals by that point to date.

Last week, Lord Cameron, the Foreign Secretary, indicated that a migrant returns agreement with France to help break up smuggling gangs and stop people making the perilous journey across the Channel was “simply not possible” after Brexit.

He said “the situation we’re in” meant a deal to send migrants back to France when they landed in Britain, in place when he was Prime Minister, could not be replicated.

Last week, Micheal Martin, the Irish deputy prime minister, said the UK’s Rwanda policy was “impacting on Ireland” because people were “fearful” of staying in the UK and were seeking asylum in Ireland instead.

Following his comments, Helen McEntee, the Irish justice minister, discussed the plan to send asylum seekers back to the UK on RTE, the national broadcaster, on Sunday.

Simon Harris, the Irish prime minister, has asked that the proposals to be brought to his cabinet this week as he faces growing public pressure over rising migration figures.

Ms McEntee said: “My focus as minister for justice is making sure that we have an effective immigration structure and system.

“That’s why I’m introducing fast processing. That’s why I’ll have emergency legislation at cabinet this week to make sure that we can effectively return people to the UK, and that’s why I’ll be meeting the Home Secretary [James Cleverly] to raise these issues on Monday.”
 
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