Poor Londoners
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I've said it for a long time now.
I think you where going I'm about Johnson. I think he was PM ar a tough time.
Like Gorden Brown, I always thought he would have been a good PM , given a fair chance .
Johnson created the nation's tough time.
Summarised by people being in a meeting with him along with a minister and wondering who was in charge.
Also from various sources a short attention span.
Opportunist - he was pro EU. Also seen by some as too Left to be a good Tory. Did a deal with the leave faction who are rather Right. The remain group also wanted him to campaign for them. I don't think they would have thought him a suitable candidate for PM.
Has something of a history of not being entirely honest - rather the opposite.
Some degree of training. This can involve defending some idea that a person doesn't actually believe in.
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Dianne Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn still unwelcome apparently.
Funny that Labour would welcome a Tory rather than Labour lifers.
New Old New Labour.
So you think they would refuse a defector? The latest one is a bit of an oddball in some ways but is extremely keen on housing. MP for Dover - boats and etc.
Given various published utterings she has recently made about Labour the defection is rather surprising. She says down to housing policy.
Look like the Tory didn't know about it until she walked in late and went to the Labour benches.
How she will fit in - have to wait and see.
Corbin is too tainted and Abbot probably fits into wont tow the party line problem. That has often been a Labour problem. LOL seems to have spread to the Tory. Something that never really happened that often in the distant past. I think it's pretty obvious why they get more of it now - too much dealing on positions to gain support for the PM.
Political optics. Nothing funny about it at all, other than the astonishing political defection. It just spells more misery for Cons and their greedy grasping chums.
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Another Labour Lifer ditched as a result or will the local party decide who stands at the next GE?
It's already been suggested that she wont be put forwards for Dover. And wow I am surprised that there is the beginnings of a media feast. I mean that never happens does it? Rumbles from the jungle as usual. Nothing clearly sourced.
One odd aspect is that it indicates she thinks the Tory plan re the boats wont work. As usual that is more complex than it would appear to be.
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Tactically, if I were starmer. I’d run Cornell for Dover and put Elphick somewhere else.
It looks like Labour strategists have heard the penny drop: moving the party away from Momentum and making themselves more appealing to mainstream voters. His PR team managed the location for the announcement last night like pros.
I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if that arch opportunist de Piffle himself defected to Labour
Corbyn would have probably run into grief. Fine idea to borrow for infrastructure etc when rates are low but the scope for debt needs to be available.
if you want to know about debt since 2000 look here
The evolution of public sector net debt (excluding the Bank of England) since 2000 - Office for Budget Responsibility
Public sector net debt (excluding the Bank of England) as a share of GDP has tripled since the beginning of this century. This box explored the drivers of the rise and its evolution over the forecast.
obr.uk
Message - shocks can crop up. Best hope we don't have any more who ever is in.
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