Possible chrysotile asbestos expsoure. Is this artex?

footprints said:
Still looks like paper to me you can see the brown edges of the underside as the paper is pulled off. The last one shows how fine the detail is, I doubt Michelangelo could pull that off with Artex.
Normally Artex is in three or four finishes, pro's will form fan shapes or geometric designs, Diy jobs are usually that horrible mess where they take a rag and rotate in randomly on the ceiling or roller it on in a finish that looks like grotty cement rendering. Purpose built houses where the stuff was the original finish have an even bobbly texture all over referred to over the pond as a "popcorn" ceiling.
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Thank you so much for that. Would you say this is vinyl wallpaper? If so i'm reading that these kind of wallpapers had asbestos in them pre 1980. Something called anaglypta...
 
Never heard of asbestos in Vinyl paper Anaglypta and Superglypta are brand names of textured paper very common and I have never heard of any risk from them.
I did a little Google and surprise surprise loads of hits come up on US sites, strangely sponsored by legal claims specialists who have an interest in convincing people to hire their services!
Try the HSE site if you want information on asbestos. The only vinyl product I know of in the UK to contain asbestos are some floor tiles.
Rest easy I am fairly OCD about asbestos ( I used to work with it and a collogue died from it a couple of years ago) and vinyl or embossed wallpaper are not something I would worry about.(y)
 
Thank you so much again. You have been so helpful! I just need more confirmation that it was in fact ceiling paper before my worries are completely calmed. Do you know where I can get an expert to have a look or are you one?
 
This is my hall paper. I had to buy similar and repair as the hall/ landing are all the same

It is anaglypta and is basically just stiff paper that I assume is embossed while wet on big rollers in production. I would be amazed if it ever had asbestos in it as what would be the need?[GALLERY=media, 98271]Image by Tigercubrider posted 4 Sep 2016 at 12:42 PM[/GALLERY][GALLERY=media, 98271]Image by Tigercubrider posted 4 Sep 2016 at 12:42 PM[/GALLERY]


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaglypta
 
I cannot call myself an expert as I doubt any others on here can. These people listed here are the experts.
http://www.arca.org.uk/

But I doubt they will allay your fears any more that we can, you can try contacting one with a photo I guess.

We are a mix of trades with a fair bit of experience.
 
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Tigercubrider said:
This is my hall paper. I had to buy similar and repair as the hall/ landing are all the same

It is anaglypta and is basically just stiff paper that I assume is embossed while wet on big rollers in production. I would be amazed if it ever had asbestos in it as what would be the need?[GALLERY=media, 98271]Image by Tigercubrider posted 4 Sep 2016 at 12:42 PM[/GALLERY][GALLERY=media, 98271]Image by Tigercubrider posted 4 Sep 2016 at 12:42 PM[/GALLERY]


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaglypta
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Hi, thanks for the pics. This looks very similar to the pictures of my old ceiling. I've been reading that asbestos was used in anaglypta up until the 1980's which has caused me to worry again now. I really do hope that i can get some closure on this, either way.
 
footprints said:
I cannot call myself an expert as I doubt any others on here can. These people listed here are the experts.
http://www.arca.org.uk/

But I doubt they will allay your fears any more that we can, you can try contacting one with a photo I guess.

We are a mix of trades with a fair bit of experience.
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Thanks. I will get in contact to see what they say. Really is frustrating as i'm reading a lot on anaglypta having asbestos pre 1980's, and some of these don't seem to have any links to legal claim companies and some are not from the US. I'm sure you are bored of me going on about this, however i'm just trying to eliminate all possibilities. annoyingly, generally i am a very safe person and would have never exposed myself in this way if i had any knowledge about asbestos beforehand. I've messaged the HSE to see if they think its vinyl textured wallpaper in the pictures and if so asked if this has ever had asbestos. The only reference i can find on their website surrounding ceilings that have asbestos is 'textured decorative coatings e.g. artex'.
 
I really think you are worrying unnecessarily, I have hung and stripped lots of textured papers and despite being very aware of asbestos it doesn't worry me one bit. Even Lincrusta as far as I know is OK, there was one called Salamander marketed in the US (according to Mr Google) that was sold as "fireproof" that contained it I understand way back, but you will not come across that here.
Gosh! Even if it did you stripped with steam, it was wet and the fibres would be fairly large and unlikely to detach from the paper.

I really hope you let it go before it causes you too much worry, you can ask the manufacturer
http://www.anaglypta.co.uk/contact
but chances are you will then wonder if it was some other brand.

Please try and move on.(y)
 
To all that have taken an interest in my concerns over potential asbestos ceiling exposure, please see the below email from Anaglypta stating that their textured wallpaper has never contained asbestos, however they obviously couldn't confirm for other makes. Let's hope all three ceilings were made by them!

'Hi Alan


I can understand your concerns, but can categorically say that any products produced by Anaglypta® do not, and never have contained any asbestos.


From the photos, I would say that the paper on the ceiling of your living and dining rooms is our Anaglypta, Richard - this paper has been in production for many years (about 50-60) and is still made in a very similar way to when first introduced.


The product was made from old cotton rags, that were shredded and mixed with paper pulp when first introduced, and since then the cotton fibres have been replaced with polyester ones.


For the paper on the other ceiling, unfortunately I cannot confirm or deny if it is Anaglypta® - if it is Anaglypta®, it will not contain asbestos.


I hope the above has been helpful, but please let me know if you require any further information.'
 
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