Replacing built-under oven with new one - need minor works cert?

winston1 said:
So the planning dept can’t read one sentence either. As has been said never assume those in charge know what they are doing.
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I never assume people know what they are doing and especially those posting on forums until I get to 'know them'.

However whether it was right or wrong it was the system in place at the time and without a cert one didn't get the work. A bit like NICEIC itself, started out as nothing and convinced others they were the top dog and now one has to be a member (others exist) to do certain aspects of electrical work.
 
winston1 said:
So the planning dept can’t read one sentence either. As has been said never assume those in charge know what they are doing.
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I too don’t want to start a slanging match. Not today, anyways.

It may be better for the less well-versed reader. The “one sentence” document referred to is the Statutory Instrument (P1). Basically all it says is that all electrical work should done safely. Read it here:
www.diynot.com

Electrics:part_p:Statutory Instrument

www.diynot.com www.diynot.com

The “part P qualification” - and what building control concern themselves - with is the APPROVED DOCUMENT. This is a government document that provides ways that P1(the LAW) can be complied with. It also provides procedures (eg notification) and documentation that is necessary for certain electrical works.
 
winston1 said:
You mean try telling them they were conned.
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It wasn't a case of being conned.

That they called it by a wrong name did not alter anything.
It was what you had to do to be able to self-certify, i.e. self-notify - another mistake.

The whole process was an unnecessary con made up on false pretences - as shown in 2013 when, in England, it was virtually abolished with only enough of it remaining to still charge the only people who did not really need to register.
By that I mean that the ancillary trades whom it was introduced to regulate no longer had to register.

winston1 said:
Did they get false paperwork I wonder?
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I suppose they did.

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Risteard said:
A sane Electrician won't attend a job for £50. At least around £80 (exclusive of any materials) would be more realistic.
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However that isn't an uncommon fitting addition by the supplier. However the restrictions tend to be extreme.
 
SUNRAY said:
However that isn't an uncommon fitting addition by the supplier. However the restrictions tend to be extreme.
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Fair point, but it will be tied in with delivery. Although I heard of one from a large retailer on Christmas Eve who advised that delivery would be £20 +VAT, and installation an extra £100 +VAT. (Obviously installation before Christmas would not have been realistic in this instance.) So £50 still seems exceedingly unlikely.
 
Risteard said:
Fair point, but it will be tied in with delivery. Although I heard of one from a large retailer on Christmas Eve who advised that delivery would be £20 +VAT, and installation an extra £100 +VAT. (Obviously installation before Christmas would not have been realistic in this instance.) So £50 still seems exceedingly unlikely.
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Fair do's, I've just checked on a national companys site and £100 presumably +VAT) for delivery and installation, whereas our new washing machine from them was £20 delivery whether to the store or home which then included installation.
 
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