Signs of the Rwanda threat working?

[Deleted member 294929]

They travel through England by road or track to get to the port onto NI.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

They travel through England by road or track to get to the port onto NI.

Obviously, but how?

Do they hide on a truck, or what to get there? They will in Kent with little, if any money, so probably not people smugglers.

 

[JonathanM]

What I don't understand, is how they get to NI. Do they just get off an inflatable in Kent, then wonder onto a ferry at Fishguard, Holyhead, or Stranraer?

I was wondering that. But the numbers are very low.

I've been asking this same thing since the story broke a few days ago. Could these be people who have already applied for asylum in the UK and have simply left their accommodation and travelled to Ireland, via the North?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I've been asking this same thing since the story broke a few days ago. Could these be people who have already applied for asylum in the UK and have simply left their accommodation and travelled to Ireland, via the North?

Possibly, they would be the ones at risk of more immediate deportation to Rwanda

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Obviously, but how?

Do they hide on a truck, or what to get there? They will in Kent with little, if any money, so probably not people smugglers.

Once they are here then they are here.
If they can afford a people smuggler then they can afford a bus ticket.

 

[JonathanM]

Possibly, they would be the ones at risk of more immediate deportation to Rwanda

If so, would that have any impact on Ireland's right to return them? I haven't really found anything, so far, either way.

 

[Brigadier]

Possibly, they would be the ones at risk of more immediate deportation to Rwanda

I'm at greater "risk" of marrying Sandra Bullock.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

They travel through England by road or track to get to the port onto NI.

Can't just get on a ferry or a plane with no documents don't forget.

Some carriers insist on a passport

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Just how many immigrants are they complaining about, 10, 100's, 1000's?

 

[motorbiking]

I've been asking this same thing since the story broke a few days ago. Could these be people who have already applied for asylum in the UK and have simply left their accommodation and travelled to Ireland, via the North?

People who are shall we say "eligible" for removal to Rwanda cannot have their asylum claim heard in the UK. If you recall, after (June?) last year - the vast majority of those arriving via illegal means cannot submit an eligible asylum claim.

The numbers are very low - a few thousand. they only get about 10k per year total.

I'm not sure they get ARC cards however, Perhaps this is allowing them to get across ?

Application registration card (ARC)

www.gov.uk

 

[JonathanM]

Curiouser and curiouser

A post-Brexit provision was, however, made in the case of the UK and Ireland, which meant Ireland could return asylum seekers to Britain.

UK attacks EU double standards on migrants

Britain refuses to take back asylum seekers until France does same for those crossing Channel

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[motorbiking]

Curiouser and curiouser

UK attacks EU double standards on migrants

Britain refuses to take back asylum seekers until France does same for those crossing Channel

www.telegraph.co.uk

I look forward to attending Sandra Bullock's wedding.... before

 

[JonathanM]

The funniest bit I've just read, is that Ireland have tried to send back asylum seekers before, but their courts stopped them. Something to do with the UK not being a safe country

 

[motorbiking]

Dublin III would help...Dublin.

 

[JonathanM]

Dublin III would help...Dublin.

What about the Ireland-UK bilateral. Is it something you've heard of before? I hadn't.