That's a turnup...

Is there a distinct difference between doing some one a favour ??

And helping some one out ??
 
A friend of 40+ years standing, a few years ago, fell out with me - something about me wanting more favours from him, than I was supplying him with, so not spoken since. I've never been one given to counting favours done, to help anyone. In my book, favours are done freely, without expectation of reward.

I spotted a few missed calls from his number, a couple of days ago, but fearing the worst, delayed until today to message him back. He's fine, his son had been on his back, pestering him to make up and so an hour on the phone, spent catching up on life's news.
Life's to short really innit.
 
Is there a distinct difference between doing some one a favour ??

And helping some one out ??

Not in my book. If I can help someone, and all it costs me is a bit of my time, I willingly do it, and don't expect a reward. I draw the line, at someone seeing my favours, as a regular alternative to paying for the help. I am always happy to help expand someone's knowledge, so in future they can tackle a job on their own.
 
I quite like helping people, it seems a sensible thing to do in civilised living, whereas too many seem to be incompatible with it. There's definitely a flip switch though, now I'm older. After a couple of signs that their attitude is inappropriate, it's time for foxtrot oscar.
 
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I think they are the forgotten vegetable I'm going to get some today for Sunday dinner

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We should eat more veg that's in season.
 
My first car was a Mini. I didn't know diddly about mechanics, one of my friends dad was a mechanic, course he will do your brakes just bring it round sat afternoon , so I turnes up and yes brakes need adjusting, me thinking he would just get on with it No ! he tels me to get on the floor jack car up, me what! him if you think i'm doing it your mistaken, but I'l show you how, thats how things went and I became quite competetent in car repairs, looking back it was the best thing he could have done for me, saved me thousands over the years.
 
My first car was a Mini. I didn't know diddly about mechanics, one of my friends dad was a mechanic, course he will do your brakes just bring it round sat afternoon , so I turnes up and yes brakes need adjusting, me thinking he would just get on with it No ! he tels me to get on the floor jack car up, me what! him if you think i'm doing it your mistaken, but I'l show you how, thats how things went and I became quite competetent in car repairs, looking back it was the best thing he could have done for me, saved me thousands over the years.

Similar here. Old man was a REME mechanic in his youth - so he showed me some basics. The rest was a case of getting together with friends to figure it out, trial and error and a Haynes with oily paw prints on the pages. In more recent times, Youtube can be a great source of info. And the car section of this forum.
 
My first car was a Mini. I didn't know diddly about mechanics, one of my friends dad was a mechanic, course he will do your brakes just bring it round sat afternoon , so I turnes up and yes brakes need adjusting, me thinking he would just get on with it No ! he tels me to get on the floor jack car up, me what! him if you think i'm doing it your mistaken, but I'l show you how, thats how things went and I became quite competetent in car repairs, looking back it was the best thing he could have done for me, saved me thousands over the years.

That is how I learned, and I would dare to suggest I am more competent than many of the mechanics I come across.

I remember the best lesson I ever learned, after spending many hours growing up around my uncle's garage business, was how to adjust drum brakes. Reading the manuals doesn't give you the 'feel' for it, I would set them so the shoe just 'kissed' the drum, thinking that was correct, but I always suffered a lot of travel. Tighten them so the lock, then slack off until they can be rotated, they will then bed themselves in.
 
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