To all those that welcome/encourage the small boat migrants.

[Android 07]

Shoot on sight.
God knows where these trash are coming from. Yours wives and daughters are not safe.

 

[Mrs Doubtfyre]

Shoot on sight.
God knows where these trash are coming from. Yours wives and daughters are not safe.

Wives and daughters, mothers, fathers, sons, and husbands are absolutely not safe when there's people encouraging a "shoot on sight" practice.
It would be full scale civil war.
There's some real barmy people about.
you've been watching too many Spaghetti Westerns.

 

[Notch7]

however he asserted that even under Labour years ago, the UK was much more efficient at 'sending people back' and quickly if they didn't meet the requirements to remain.

thats true

we were sending back 15,000-20,000 a year

last few years thats dropped to around 5000 a year

(numbers from memory, but in the ballpark)

 

[Notch7]

Shoot on sight.
God knows where these trash are coming from. Yours wives and daughters are not safe.

how do you know they are trash?

have you talked to many of them?

 

[motorbiking]

So..
We had a law that said, if you come via illegal means you will never be granted a right to remain.

Now we have changed our mind and we are accepting claims from those arriving illegally.

And we don't think "never having the right to remain" was a deterrent and "being granted a right to claim asylum" isn't an incentive.

Its nuts and we will see the numbers rise to the level we had under the last labour government.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I've just posted this in another thread ...

This is where, in my opinion, it's not a stretch of the imagination to conclude much of this is intentional i.e. by design. For example the situation referenced in this thread. Also the farcical situation of the UK not being able to get on top on the small boat situation. And in the USA, record numbers pouring across their border however Kamala as Border Zsar or whatever the title hadn't even visited the border to assess the situation.

Here in Scotland the SNP suggested a few years back that we should consider building new towns, yes entirely new towns, with priority given to migrants when it comes to being housed there.

Therefore, increasingly, I conclude governments for whatever reasons do not want to solve this.

 

[motorbiking]

The problem that nobody has grasped is once they are here, its hard to get rid of them, particularly if they have disposed on their Identity.

There was talk of Illegals being able to earn the right to apply through volunteering etc. That would certainly weed out the gangsters.

But Sir Keir argued: "At the moment, 100% of those arriving in this country are staying for life at the taxpayer’s expense". That's because he closed the scheme that was set up to take them.

So once their claims are rejected - what does he propose to do?

 

[Mrs Doubtfyre]

So..
We had a law that said, if you come via illegal means you will never be granted a right to remain.

Now we have changed our mind and we are accepting claims from those arriving illegally.

And we don't think "never having the right to remain" was a deterrent and "being granted a right to claim asylum" isn't an incentive.

Its nuts and we will see the numbers rise to the level we had under the last labour government.

So.
We had a law that said, if you come via a boat you will never be processed and you can remain in UK for evermore.

And we don't think "always having the right to remain" was a deterrent and "being granted a right to claim asylum" is a humane approach, that suggests that if your application is unsuccessful, you may be deported.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

So..
We had a law that said, if you come via illegal means you will never be granted a right to remain.

Now we have changed our mind and we are accepting claims from those arriving illegally.

And we don't think "never having the right to remain" was a deterrent and "being granted a right to claim asylum" isn't an incentive.

Its nuts and we will see the numbers rise to the level we had under the last labour government.

Sending more back than the previous govt , after just days.

Is that better or worse ?

 

[Mrs Doubtfyre]

And in the USA, record numbers pouring across their border however Kamala as Border Zsar or whatever the title hadn't even visited the border to assess the situation.

Do you think KH's not visiting has had an effect. Or if she had visited it would have made any material difference?

But there are two other issues with your comment.
first, she did visit in 2022.
Secondly, she was tasked with tackling the root causes of migration.
The border crossings are a minor symptom of the 'root causes of migration'. (She has generated jobs in South America, which is far more relevant to her task, than visiting a border crossing.)

 

[Brigadier]

Sending more back than the previous govt , after just days.

Is that better or worse ?

Worse, coz the previous government laughing stock said they'd be tough on immigration, and that they'd "stop the boats".

It's all Labour's fault