Vive La France!

[noseall]

Anyone seen MBK?

Currently, the requirement for two doctors to certify that a woman meets the legal grounds for abortion has the potential to delay treatment. It may be difficult for a woman who is concerned about confidentiality to find two doctors to approve her abortion request. There is no central monitoring of delays to treatment of this type, but recently, Tony Calland, the Medical Ethics Committee Chair of the British Medical Association (BMA) said that "some women waited up to 13 weeks [gestation] to have their abortion approved by two doctors and removing this requirement would reduce such a wait and the associated risks". The requirement for two signatures for solely legal purposes also increases treatment costs by introducing unnecessary bureaucracy.

Dr Tony Calland (MBE).

 

[Vinty]

He's saying you value an Oscar trophy over the lives of 68'000 women, you absolute horror of a human being.

You are worse.
You are a troll.
You don't give a feck about women or kids.
A serious subject like abortion and you turn it into a trolling exercise.

 

[noseall]

You don't give a feck about women or kids.

I take abortion and the health of women very seriously. They need protecting from murderous idiots like you.

68'000 women dead v's an Oscar trophy. Hang your head in shame boyo.

As for MBK - he is a clueless, ill informed idiot. He should have bowed out of this thread on page 30.

Currently, the requirement for two doctors to certify that a woman meets the legal grounds for abortion has the potential to delay treatment. It may be difficult for a woman who is concerned about confidentiality to find two doctors to approve her abortion request. There is no central monitoring of delays to treatment of this type, but recently, Tony Calland, the Medical Ethics Committee Chair of the British Medical Association (BMA) said that "some women waited up to 13 weeks [gestation] to have their abortion approved by two doctors and removing this requirement would reduce such a wait and the associated risks". The requirement for two signatures for solely legal purposes also increases treatment costs by introducing unnecessary bureaucracy.

 

[Vinty]

68'000 women dead

Stop talking crap.
Pregnancy doesn't kill women.
Having a baby doesn't kill a women.
Abortion can kill women.

 

[noseall]

Stop talking crap.
Pregnancy doesn't kill women.
Having a baby doesn't kill a women.
Abortion can kill women.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Another illiterate moron that cant read...

"....Analysis conducted in America into the safety of medical abortion found that the estimated case-fatality rate for medical abortion was 0.8 deaths per 100,000 procedures. This risk was statistically indistinguishable from the risk of death from miscarriage, which was 0.7 per 100,000 miscarriages. Both of these figures were much lower than that associated with childbirth. In 1997, the pregnancy related mortality ratio in America was 12.9 deaths per 100,000 live births...."

3.1 Restricting access to abortion has a significant detrimental impact on women's health. It is estimated that 68,000 women worldwide die each year due to complications of unsafe abortion.[70]

3.2 In Romania, policies restricting access to abortion led to a significant increase in maternal mortality from 20 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births in 1966 to over 100 per 100,000 in 1974 and to 150 per 100,000 in 1983.[71] After the restrictive laws were revoked, the rate of maternal deaths fell rapidly to 40 per 100,000 live births in 1989. It is estimated that around 200,000 Romanian women died between 1966 and 1988 as a result of unsafe abortion.[72]

3.3 The CEMACH Report in 2004 included a commentary on previous reports of deaths caused by illegal abortion. The Report for 1952-54 included 153 deaths due to "abortion", at least 108 of which were illegal. Reports of around 30 deaths per year from illegal abortion continued throughout the 1950s and 1960s. During 1969, the first full year that the 1967 Abortion Act was in force, the number of deaths "clearly due to illegal abortion" fell to 17. The number of deaths due to illegal abortion could have been underestimated because the number of deaths attributed to spontaneous miscarriage also decreased from 1970, in parallel with those attributed to illegal abortion.[73]

3.4 More recently, access to legal abortion in Nepal appears to have helped to reduce the maternal death rate. In 2001, the official maternal mortality rate for Nepal was 539 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births. Access to abortion was legalised in 2002 and a programme introduced to make safe abortion more widely available. In 2006, the maternal mortality rate in Nepal was 281 per 100,000 live births, a reduction of 48 per cent.[74]

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68'000 unnecessary deaths, you disgusting bastard. You religious idiots disgust me.

 

[noseall]

Stop talking crap.
Pregnancy doesn't kill women.
Having a baby doesn't kill a women.
Abortion can kill women.

I see you have backed up your post with bandwidth space.

 

[noseall]

we are ok but Ulster is ****ed ******.

The good folk of 21 century England are very generous to our Irish neighbours.

 

[noseall]

A serious subject like abortion and you turn it into a trolling exercise.

Trolling would be filling a thread full of falsehoods and would soon be locked. This thread has run for 135 pages unimpeded. People that don't like the truth (genuine trolls) have tried to lock it for sure. However, the mod's are rightly, uninterested.

MBK has made a rod for his own back boyo. Suck it up with the rest of the liars.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Stop talking crap.
Pregnancy doesn't kill women.
Having a baby doesn't kill a women.
Abortion can kill women.

Pregnancy can kill women.
Having a baby can kill women.
Abortion can keep a woman alive.

Every instance is an individual, with an individual reason. Why do you think you can impose your views without taking details into account ?

 

[noseall]

Stop talking crap.

Go back to your dark ages boyo...

Legal developments since 1967 have made it abundantly clear that, with the glaring exception of the regulation of abortion, this correctly captures the position at English common law and under the Human Rights Act (1998). Namely, the fetus is not a legal person, and its interests cannot trump those of the pregnant woman.

 

[noseall]

Pregnancy can kill women.

Pregnancy and childbirth is inherently more dangerous to women (than abortion), more than 16 fold.

Do they still burn witches in Derry?

 

[Notch7]

You are worse.
You are a troll.
You don't give a feck about women or kids.
A serious subject like abortion and you turn it into a trolling exercise.

You want abortion made illegal

Making abortion illegal does not lower abortion rates.

So why do you want It?

 

[Notch7]

Stop talking crap.
Pregnancy doesn't kill women.
Having a baby doesn't kill a women.
Abortion can kill women.

Making abortion illegal kills women

"Abortion-related deaths are more frequent in countries with more restrictive abortion laws (34 deaths per 100,000 childbirths) than in countries with less restrictive laws (1 or fewer per 100,000 childbirths"

Vinty likes killing women

 

[noseall]

Vinty likes killing women

He despises women.

 

[Odds]

He's saying you value an Oscar trophy over the lives of 68'000 women, you absolute horror of a human being.

Quite the opposite. Aborting a foetus disgnosed with Down Syndrome on account of his/her condition is contrary to Christian values whereby the life of a child is sacrosanct. They can have fulfillng lives given care and support in a loving family.